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Garden Path Ideas


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kathaleen21-Sep-04 07:50 PM EST 3a   
julie d25-Sep-04 09:33 AM EST 5a   
carolincalgary26-Sep-04 02:04 PM EST 3   
tom dawson26-Sep-04 03:24 PM EST 3a   
kathaleen13-Oct-04 07:18 PM EST 3a   
tom dawson14-Oct-04 08:46 PM EST 3a   
kathaleen25-Oct-04 07:28 PM EST 3a   
tom dawson25-Oct-04 09:46 PM EST 3a   
Wendy Power26-Oct-04 07:57 PM EST 7   
kathaleen30-Oct-04 08:17 PM EST 3a   
janine14-Nov-04 10:04 AM EST 2a   
Jamie15-Nov-04 04:44 PM EST 7   


Subject: Garden Path Ideas
From: kathaleen
Zone: 3a
Date: 21-Sep-04 07:50 PM EST

Hi,

I am already looking ahead to the spring....ok, a little premature but always keen. I have a garden path area in our yard that predates me - basically a fine gravel that seems to host every week known to man and some aggressive perennials seedlings. It is a constant battle, and I am not winning. So I need to replace this. Don't want to go to brick unless I have to - wondering if anyone has any weedfree- path solutions??!! Thanks


Subject: RE: Garden Path Ideas
From: julie d
Zone: 5a
Date: 25-Sep-04 09:33 AM EST

the only weed free option I can think of is cement. (not good) For an almost weed free path whatever material you decide to use (rock,pavers, mulch) put a weed barrier underneath your material and that will make it that much easier to maintain. To find weed barrier go to a garden center or a hardware store or if you want to pay someone to do it find a local landscape company to do it for you. It is easy to-do-it yourself though. julie


Subject: RE: Garden Path Ideas
From: carolincalgary
Zone: 3
Date: 26-Sep-04 02:04 PM EST

I found that weeds and perennials often seed in gravel - both the river rock that I used to have near my garden shed and the fine gravel in my dog run. They just grow in the bits of dirt that always seems to be in the gravel - so even with a fabric underneath it you will probably always have weeds. Pesonally I would go with a properly laid gravel/sand/brick walk although even then you may get grass and seedlings growing between the bricks


Subject: RE: Garden Path Ideas
From: tom dawson
Zone: 3a
Date: 26-Sep-04 03:24 PM EST

i don't often jump in as i am not the master gardener of the family - but paths and hardscape - i enjoy that.. have you considered slate? we did our patio last year using slate pieces and we chose to use polymeric sand that hardens between the slate - but a neighbour down the way simply embedded large pieces of slate directly in the earth and let mother nature take care of the bits in between -- looks good as well -- just my 2 cents :}

regards tom


Subject: RE: Garden Path Ideas
From: kathaleen
Zone: 3a
Date: 13-Oct-04 07:18 PM EST

I like the idea - but did you get any weeds between the pieces of slate??? How pricey was the slate??? I am getting a good image of this in my mind and it would look good -and I can imagine how excited my hubby will be with the required labour....but it does have to get replaced and then onto a water feature.


Subject: RE: Garden Path Ideas
From: tom dawson
Zone: 3a
Date: 14-Oct-04 08:46 PM EST

it's likely that over time some weeds may appear, but donna is planning on adding her own wooly thymne to the slate - as to the labour, it was a chore, but that's mainly because i did it all twice... (don't ask, i'm not the brightest sometimes :)...as to price, we went with 2" thick slate, and we shopped around - start with the major garden centres, then look into the wholesaler who deal in stone... if you go to the "pix" area of the main menu, look in Donna's backyard, you'll see my first attempt at the slate patio - i may have some more recent if you are interested...

t


Subject: RE: Garden Path Ideas
From: kathaleen
Zone: 3a
Date: 25-Oct-04 07:28 PM EST

Sorry, I have been away, so haven't checked the site lately. Your first attempt at slate looked great - I hate to ask why you redid it? I am interested in what your 2004 attempt looked like. I was looking at the wooly thymne idea as well. I know some weeds are always inevitable, just not the amount I currently have in this crushed gravel pathway we inherited here. Of course right now I am waiting for our snow to melt, so I can plant my bulbs!!! Drat.


Subject: RE: Garden Path Ideas
From: tom dawson
Zone: 3a
Date: 25-Oct-04 09:46 PM EST

well the story goes .... i checked every source i could find to see how people in a climate such as ours laid slate -- every reference i could find talked about using concrete and we didn't just want a concrete patio with stones inlaid -- i also didn't know how much space to put in between the stones -- turns out my first guess of a 3-4 inch space with sand filler just didn't work out -- the sand never compresses, and the slate never really settled -- so i ended up pulling up over 5500 lbs of slate, and then relaying it with 1-1.5 inch spaces and then using a specialized sand that packs and hardens after being dampened -- it's still a work in progress as we start the filling with wooley tyme next season -- i suspect it will take 4 - 5 seasons to really take on the character i am looking for....

t


Subject: RE: Garden Path Ideas
From: Wendy Power
Zone: 7
Date: 26-Oct-04 07:57 PM EST

Kathaleen... The slate path sounds great. I've heard that it can get quite slippery so do take care. Another suggestion to keep the weeds down would be to use Casaron - stringently following the manufacturer's directions. It's a pre-emergent herbicide and is generally effective for at least 8 or 9 months. It's extremely important to not get this product anywhere you'd like seedlings to develop. Certain plants don't like it around - evergreens like ericas and callunas [heathers] and smaller rhodies and japanese azaleas in particular. This product works well under birdfeeders - I'm sure we all know what I mean. Love the little birdies - hate the mess.


Subject: RE: Garden Path Ideas
From: kathaleen
Zone: 3a
Date: 30-Oct-04 08:17 PM EST

Thanks for the info Tom, i do appreciate it - I will use the winter to give it some thought and design. Definetly don't want to have to redo this twice . Wouldn't make me too popular with my best grounds crew - and may lead to a full revolt before I can get a water feature added to the yard.I appreicate the info Wendy on the weedkiller - but this I think would be an endless job based on how many times I think I've won the battle, and really it was only a minor victory. We need a new path material - as this gravel mixture is a disaster. I think slate would look lovely, since the garden would really encompass it. Thanks for the help


Subject: RE: Garden Path Ideas
From: janine (jjschuel@telusplanet.net)
Zone: 2a
Date: 14-Nov-04 10:04 AM EST

I don't know how well this applies to a path, but we put in a cobblestone patio about 10 years ago, and originally had lots of weeds growing in the sand between the cobbles. We pulled the weeds and dug them out with a carpet knife - and sometimes just ignored them. Over time the sand has aquired a crust of moss (or algae? green stuff with no leaves?) This seems to keep the weeds from growing really well.


Subject: RE: Garden Path Ideas
From: Jamie
Zone: 7
Date: 15-Nov-04 04:44 PM EST

My Grandfather made a really cool garden path by digging out spaces and filling them with a concrete and gravel mixture. They are round (like the holes he dug) and are no more than 4" thick in the center. I was able to pick them up and move them several years later to change my path. We have grass growing around them and as they are flush, I can run the mower right over them.


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