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Jeff02-Apr-04 12:18 PM EST 5b   
Susan03-Apr-04 05:34 AM EST 6a   
ollie03-Apr-04 07:20 AM EST 7a   
Jeff07-Apr-04 04:42 AM EST   
Susan07-Apr-04 02:02 PM EST 6a   
Jeff14-Apr-04 05:08 AM EST   
Susan14-Apr-04 06:14 AM EST 6a   
Jeff15-Apr-04 03:41 PM EST   

Subject: What do you look for ?
From: Jeff (
Zone: 5b
Date: 02-Apr-04 12:18 PM EST

I am interested to know what others look for in a mail order company? This can be a catalogue company or internet based. Right now I 'am a gardening enthuisiast that holds a plant sale each spring. I would like to turn this into a business. For the last couple of years I have compared my stock to that offered by garden centres. I am eager to know what othere think when searching.

I have contemplated using a mailbox for correspondence and payments to be sent. Just incase I decide to move. How would you feel about this. I am very consciencious about my reputation and integrity. Does this seem rather shady? I jsut think at this point in time that adding e-commerce would add a lot of overhead costs.

I have started to think about this more and more. This year should be the best yet (based on quality, selection and price). Currently, I am potting up plants from bareroots and suffering a terrible case of garden fever. I hope you can follow what I am asking.

I am open to all suggestions of what you would like to see from a company and what not to do.

Subject: RE: What do you look for ?
From: Susan
Zone: 6a
Date: 03-Apr-04 05:34 AM EST

I only deal with mail-order companies that have on-line secure ordering. I'm too lazy to fill out manual forms and mail them! E-commerce is here to stay I think and anyone serious about the mail order business has to make the investment to get a proper sytem. I think there are off-the-shelf systems available to make it easier and less costly.

While it undoubtedly seems a duplication of cost and effort for the company, I like both a paper catalog and a web site. I could live with a bare-b0nes web site that is largely for ordering ease with a good quality paper catalog to go with it. It is much easier to flip through a paper catalog when deciding what to order than it is to flip through web pages.

Are you planning on specializing in any particular sort of plants?

Good luck.

Subject: RE: What do you look for ?
From: ollie
Zone: 7a
Date: 03-Apr-04 07:20 AM EST

I agree with everything the previous poster had to say. I order everything on line and use my credit card, it is so easy. I also like the paper catalogue too so I can decide what to order before going on line. Good luck!

Subject: RE: What do you look for ?
From: Jeff (
Date: 07-Apr-04 04:42 AM EST

Thanks for your input regarding e-commerce. I am going to look at including it.

I am unable to compete with your basic annuals, so i don't even try. I make a point of adding new things every year. I think we are best known for our Cannas. I use to grown all my perennials from seed and keep them for 2 years before selling. i coould barely get them into 8" pots to sell. Really had to hack them. Boy, they really were beautiful come sale time. Plants are such wonderful and forgiving things. People starting asking for such a wide array of plants, many of which i coouldn't get seeds for and the timing would be too long. So i had to change my plan. I have started using rootstock instead. I feel that it is sort of cheating (based on my original view) but I wanted to keep people happy and interested.

If mother nature cooperates! Here's what we will have for this years sale:

Agapanthus 'Pinocchio' Alium 'Purple Sensation' Arisaema triphyllum Asclepias incarnata'Ice Ballet' Asclepias 'Soulmate' Asclepias tuberosa Asiatic lily 'Cancun' Asiatic lily 'Jacqueline' Asiatic lily 'Lollypop' Astilbe arendsii Amerika Astilbe arendsii Bumalda Astilbe chinesis 'Pumila' Astilbe chinesis 'Visions in red' Astilbe japonica 'Red Sentinel' Athyrium niponicum 'Pictum' (=Metallicum) Athyrium niponicum 'Ursala's red' Bergenia cordifolia Brunnera macrophylla'Jack Frost' Burgundy Pincushion CallaAnneke Calla Flame Calla Garnet Glow Calla Lipstick Calla 'Solar Flare' Calla Yellow Mammoth Calocasia "Black Magic' Calocasia esculentus (green) Camassia Blue Melody Canna 'President' Canna 'Red King Humbert' Canna 'Red Wine' Canna 'Richard Wallace' Canna 'Stuttgart' VRTGD Canna 'Wyoming' Clematis "Blue Light" Columbine Nora Barlow Coneflower (purple) Corcosmia 'Lucifer' Daylily red (unidentified) Daylily Stella D'Oro Dicentra Adrian Blooms Dicentra spectabilis Dicentra spectabilis 'alba' Fritillaria Lutea maxima Fritillaria Rubra maxima Geranium himalayse 'Plenum' Geranium sanguineum 'Album' Geranium sanguineum 'Black Beauty' Geranium sanguineum 'Okey Dokey' Geranium sanguineum 'Patricia' Gold zucchini Green zucchini Heliopsis "Summer Sun' Hemerocalis 'Happy returns' Heuchera brizodes 'Pluie de Feu' Heuchera 'Purple Palace' Heuchera 'Silver Scrolls' Hosta Albomarginata Hosta Blue Umbrellas Hosta 'Chantilly Lace' Hosta 'Dream Weaver' Hosta 'El Nino' Hosta 'Fire and Ice' Hosta fortunei Albopicta Hosta fortunei Patriot Hosta 'Great Expectations' Hosta Green/blue Hosta 'Outhouse Delight' Hosta Pandora's Box Hosta plantaginea 'Guacomole' Hosta 'Remember Me' Hosta Revolution Hosta tardiana 'Blue Moon' Hosta tardiana 'Halcyon' Hosta tardiana 'Halcyon' Hosta tardiana 'June' Hosta undulata 'Mediovariagata' Hosta Undulata univittatta Hosta vent. Aureomarginata Hosta 'Whirlwind' Hygrangea 'Annebelle' Iris 'Batik' Iris 'Blue Luster' Iris pallida 'White edge' Iris 'Purple' Iris sibirica 'Ruffled velvet' Iris sibirica 'Snow Queen' Iris sibirica 'Sparkling rose' Lilium candidum Lily 'Cancun' Lily 'Lollypop' Matteucia struthiopteris Nectoscardium scilium Oriental lily 'Acapulco' Oriental Lily 'Arena' Oriental lily 'Casa Blanca' Oriental Lily 'Corsaro' Oriental lily 'Dizzy' Oriental lily 'Stargazer' Painted Daisy Papaver orientale 'Brilliant' Penstemon 'Stappleford Gem' Phlox paniculata 'Daniella' Phlox paniculata 'Nicky' Phlox paniculata 'Pink Attraction' Pulmonaria longifolia 'Diana Clare' Rudbeckia 'Goldstrum' Sedum 'Autumn joy' Siberian iris (purple) Solomon's Seal Tomatoes 'Beefsteak' Tomatoes 'Cherry' Tradescantia 'Blushiing Bride' Tradescantia 'Karminglut' Tree peony Chinesis 'Feng Dan Bai' Tree Peony Japanese 'Yellow" Trillium erectum 'Wake Robin' Trillium Grandiflora 'Snowy White' Trollius europaeus Trollius 'Orange Princess' Veronica 'Noah Williams' Veronica 'Sunny border Blue' Widow's tears (Spiderwort)

I really looking forward to watching it grow. It has been cold here for the last few days. I was a little worried. (-8 Celcius). Today should be better.

Subject: RE: What do you look for ?
From: Susan
Zone: 6a
Date: 07-Apr-04 02:02 PM EST

Where are you/where/when is this plant sale?....

Subject: RE: What do you look for ?
From: Jeff (
Date: 14-Apr-04 05:08 AM EST

Hi Susan,

sorry for the delay in responding. I'm located in Brampton, close to the intersection of Hwy 10 and Steeles Ave.

We will be holding the sale the weekend after the May 24 weekend. That is the 29th. This way people can still go away for the weekend and not miss the sale. I also think that it is safer for the risk of frost.

I'm not sure if I'm too far away from you? I'm not sure where Zone 6 runs but I'm jealous!


Subject: RE: What do you look for ?
From: Susan
Zone: 6a
Date: 14-Apr-04 06:14 AM EST

Hi Jeff

I'm not all that far away - near the lake in Oakville. What is avialable at the sale? I've certainly been known to travel at least as far as you are if there's plants available that appeal to me....

Subject: RE: What do you look for ?
From: Jeff (
Date: 15-Apr-04 03:41 PM EST

What is available you ask?

So far mother Nature is cooperating. Everything that I listed about 3 e-mails back with 2 deletions. Veronica 'Noah Williams' and Tradescatia 'Blushing Bride' did not make it I will hopefully know if Ursala's red Japanese painted fern will be. I was sent Ostrich fern instead, yet the bag was marked Ursala's red. I have a couple more additions too. Clematis 'Josephine' and Christmas fern. I'm sure there will be a few more as I decide to dig stuff out of our gardens too. What i think is most appealing is the fact that I do not charge any taxes at this point.

As it gets closer, I will try and take some photos of things that I think are doing amazing and post them.


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