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Brugmansia


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Sandy09-Nov-03 05:08 PM EST 3b   
Annie Appleseed21-Nov-03 10:40 PM EST 9   
Illaway30-Jan-04 10:23 AM EST 4b   
Barb P.30-Jan-04 05:35 PM EST 4b   
Elle C. (Markham)05-Feb-04 08:58 PM EST 5b   
Elle C. (Markham)05-Feb-04 08:59 PM EST 5b   
ALberto144430-Apr-04 08:22 PM EST 9a   
04-Jun-04 09:24 AM EST   
Patricia05-Jun-04 05:56 AM EST 5   
Margie21-Jul-04 08:41 PM EST 5a   
jayne08-Aug-04 08:11 AM EST 2a   
DebbieC18-Aug-04 01:30 PM EST 2b   
18-Aug-04 02:07 PM EST 4a   
tifini19-Aug-04 06:08 PM EST 9a   
Jennie21-Aug-04 11:39 AM EST 4a   
Patricia22-Aug-04 02:38 PM EST 5   
DebbieC24-Aug-04 04:47 PM EST   
Jennie24-Aug-04 10:33 PM EST 4   
dm25-Aug-04 08:34 PM EST 3   
Rose26-Aug-04 05:05 AM EST 4a   
Jennie26-Aug-04 06:44 AM EST 4   
dm27-Aug-04 11:16 PM EST 3   
28-Aug-04 04:03 PM EST   
Cailinriley31-Aug-04 08:31 PM EST 3a   


Subject: Brugmansia
From: Sandy
Zone: 3b
Date: 09-Nov-03 05:08 PM EST

Is it best to start these plants from seeds or cuttings? I seen so many different colors and thought it would be fun to try.


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: Annie Appleseed (annmiani@comcast.net)
Zone: 9
Date: 21-Nov-03 10:40 PM EST

I start them from cuttings quite easily. Not much special preparation for this. Simply cut them and place them in soil. They sprout new leaves in as little as 2 weeks.


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: Illaway
Zone: 4b
Date: 30-Jan-04 10:23 AM EST

Does anyone know where I can get Brugmansia seeds,(in Canada rather than mail order from the U.S.)


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: Barb P. (callvin@nrtco.net)
Zone: 4b
Date: 30-Jan-04 05:35 PM EST

You could try Vesey's seeds. Be aware that brugmansia seeds are poisonous.


Subject: RE: Brugmansia > TO: IIlaway
From: Elle C. (Markham)
Zone: 5b
Date: 05-Feb-04 08:58 PM EST

www.brugmansiasetc.com/

I have seen the below-mentioned grower's Brugs in Canada Blooms a couple of years ago, and they were awesome! He lives in Toronto. www.thejobugroup.com/eg/products/brugmansia.asp

The photos are really amazing. Drool time :o)http://www.brugmansias.org/siteindex.html


Subject: RE: Brugmansia > TO: IIlaway
From: Elle C. (Markham)
Zone: 5b
Date: 05-Feb-04 08:59 PM EST

www.brugmansiasetc.com/

I have seen the below-mentioned grower's Brugs in Canada Blooms a couple of years ago, and they were awesome! He lives in Toronto. www.thejobugroup.com/eg/products/brugmansia.asp

The photos are really amazing. Drool time :o)http://www.brugmansias.org/siteindex.html


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: ALberto1444 (finleyrom@prodigy.net.mx)
Zone: 9a
Date: 30-Apr-04 08:22 PM EST

Dear Canadians, Pretty impressive. Here in Guad, Mexico Brugs grow outdoors all year long. Moving to Halifax, NS. I'm sure I'll enjoy it. Love wildflowers. Alberto1444


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From:
Zone:
Date: 04-Jun-04 09:24 AM EST

i have a couple brugmansia that i have from last year if i put them outside now will they survive. thanks barb


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: Patricia (iris1@rogers.com)
Zone: 5
Date: 05-Jun-04 05:56 AM EST

Hello, Barb: About putting your Brugmansia outdoors: first: like any other plant moving out to much brighter light, do it in stages: for example, put them on a covered porch for a few days, then in a semi-shade location and finally out into full sun. If you put them into full sun the first day, the leaves will get bad sunburn. We are growing Daturas, first cousins to your Brugmansia, and we are growing them outdoors, in fact, we were told to put them in the sunniest, hottest part of our garden. This is the first time with these flowers for us: we expect wonderful double purple blooms with great fragrance!


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: Margie
Zone: 5a
Date: 21-Jul-04 08:41 PM EST

Hi. I'm a great fan of these plants -- also known as Angel's Trumpets, I think. I've been growing brugmansia and datura from seed for about 5 years with quite good luck. I start them inside around February. My favorite is the Datura Belle Blanche, with huge white flowers, although the seeds are getting harder and harder to find in the catalogues (I usually just save some from current year). This year the slugs, snails, leafminers and earwigs (I've got 'em all!) are having a feast on the Purple Ballerina leaves, but seem to be leaving the Belle Blanche alone. Last year I pulled up a couple of Bell blanche plants, stuck them in pots, cut them back severely and left them by a door in the family room. By about February new growth was visible, and by June I had beautiful strong plants about 2 feet high. I've also found that if you leave some of the seed pods on for the winter, you can expect tiny seedlings in the pot or around the groud where the plant was the year before. By the way, my neice calls these "Fruit Loop Flowers", but personally I think the leaves smell like peanut butter!. One last point, the Belle Blanche and Purple Ballerina both seem to grow well under a walnut tree.


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: jayne
Zone: 2a
Date: 08-Aug-04 08:11 AM EST

I love daturas and have grown white, purple, yellow in single and double and I must say I am very taken with them so now I would love to try some Brugmansias. I was wondering if anyone has tried and true methods of wintering them over.


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: DebbieC
Zone: 2b
Date: 18-Aug-04 01:30 PM EST

Last year I brought my brug back in the house to bloom. After, I just cut it right back and put it in a cool and dark basement room until about March when I brought it back up into the light and started watering it again. It did very well. You also can just keep it growing over the winter in a sunny window if you wish.


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From:
Zone: 4a
Date: 18-Aug-04 02:07 PM EST

Debbie--did you water it at all or just let it go on it's own. My cold cellar gets to freezing in the dead of winter. Would that kill it or is it hardy enough to withstand cold? I just got one this year and it's beautiful. How far back would you cut yours? Mine is a yellow one and it about five feet tall.


Subject: Brugmansia Question
From: tifini
Zone: 9a
Date: 19-Aug-04 06:08 PM EST

I have recently purchased a burgmansia. (three total) however one of them has it's leaves turning yellow and dropping off. the other two are doing fine. I watered it and added some fertilizer. it has only been five days, but it's lost 60% of it's leaves. does anyone have any suggestions and info to help me. It first day home was in full sun, but I've since moved it to partial shade. If that additional info helps.


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: Jennie
Zone: 4a
Date: 21-Aug-04 11:39 AM EST

Years ago my Grandmother grew what she called "Moonflowers" and I searched in vain to find some. This summer one showed up in my garden...a gift from the squirrels I think. In doing some research on the plant I found out that they are poisonious, something I'd never heard of. I'd like to know more about this aspect of the plant. Does just touching the plant cause a problem or does one have to ingest it? What is the best way to handle it to collect the seeds? If I just leave it where it is will it propagate itself (I'm in Zone 4)? Thanks for your help!


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: Patricia (iris1@rogers.com)
Zone: 5
Date: 22-Aug-04 02:38 PM EST

This is for Jennie: if your Grandmother's "Moonflower" was a white "morning glory" that opened in the evening, then the answer is that the seeds are hallucinogenic. But I think it would take a fair amount to give you hallucinations....Many years ago, my daughter sat in her stroller next to a fence covered in morning glories - I looked at her just in time to see her stuffing some seeds into her mouth. I quickly called the children's hospital - they told me basically to watch her for a few days, told me she might be drowsy. But nothing unusual happened. To the best of my knowledge, the rest of the plant is not a problem.


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: DebbieC
Zone:
Date: 24-Aug-04 04:47 PM EST

This is in answer to the person in 4A re overwintering brugmansia. I did water my brug periodically in the beginning but then just left it to dry. It will not tolerate freezing temps so if your basement freezes I would keep it in a sunny window upstairs. I cut mine back to about 6 inches to store it but I wouldn't cut it back that much if I was going to keep on growing it over the winter. They are very prone to spidermites so make sure it spray well with insecticidal soap when you bring it inside and periodically over the winter.


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: Jennie
Zone: 4
Date: 24-Aug-04 10:33 PM EST

It's not planted in a pot...the Squirrel planted it next to my sidewalk. What do you suggest I do? Just save the seeds for next Spring?


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: dm
Zone: 3
Date: 25-Aug-04 08:34 PM EST

Jennie...all parts of Datura and Brugmansia are poisonous. Some people advise wearing gloves when handling the plants. I never stop to put gloves on if I'm just taking off a dead leaf, etc., but I make sure I don't touch my eyes or mouth and then I carefully wash my hands afterwards.

You can do several things to make sure you have a new plant next year. Saving seeds is one option...I don't even think you have to wait until next spring to start the plant. I bring my datura (because it's small enough) into the house over winter and grow it as a house plant. If you have room and a place with sufficient light, you could try to start some seeds now, and save others for the spring.

Another thing you can do is take cuttings of the plant. They root relatively easily, and once they are rooted you can grow them as house plants until spring. That way, your plant will have a head start and be larger next summer...and more impressive.

A third option is to carefully dig out the plant you have, clean off the roots, and pot it up to take in the house.

Why not try all three?! You'll either have a tropical paradise in your garden next year, or a whole lot of plants to trade with other gardeners!

Good luck, whatever you decide.


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: Rose
Zone: 4a
Date: 26-Aug-04 05:05 AM EST

Thanks for your response Debbie. I do plan to cut mine back this fall. What do you do with the cuttings. Can you keep them in water until spring or do you plant them directly into new soil if you want to increase your collection?


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: Jennie
Zone: 4
Date: 26-Aug-04 06:44 AM EST

Great information...I thank you all!

The problem I face is that I live in a semi-basement apartment with a western exposure. Also I already have so many plants (not to mention two cats) in here that space is at a premium. Not mention my Datura is huge!!

The suggestion of taking cuttings(just where exactly do I take it from?)sounds good...can I just grow them in water until spring? I'll keep the seeds as well so what is the best way to store them?


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: dm
Zone: 3
Date: 27-Aug-04 11:16 PM EST

Jennie and Rose, any non-flowering stem can be used as a cutting. Cut the stem (not too long...3 inches should be fine, give or take) just below a set of leaves. Gently remove the bottom pair of leaves. I don't know if the cuttings will root in water or if they'd rot. I don't recommend growing them all winter in water. I put moist vermiculite in a pot (you can use perlite, too, or a combination of the two), put the cuttings in the vermiculite, and then set the pot in a saucer of water. I keep water in the saucer until the cuttings root. You can tell they've rooted if they show new growth, or if they offer some resistance when you gently tug at them. At that point, they can be carefully cleaned of most of the vermiculite/perlite (you don't need to totally clean off the roots), repotted in regular soilless mix, and cared for as a house plant. Give as much light as you can and pinch the new growths to make the plant bushy.

Jennie, seeds need to be stored cool, dark and dry. I put all my seeds in small individual envelopes. The envelopes are then put in a container, along with a layer of silica sand to prevent moisture damage, and kept in a spare fridge. I've heard that using powdered milk is just as effective as the silica (which I had at home anyway for drying flowers).

Hope this information was helpful.


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From:
Zone:
Date: 28-Aug-04 04:03 PM EST

Great!! Thanks!!


Subject: RE: Brugmansia
From: Cailinriley
Zone: 3a
Date: 31-Aug-04 08:31 PM EST

Here's an EXCELLENT article (complete with photos) on taking Brugmansia cuttings that sounds fool-proof (I might try it myself-hehehe). Written by someone who's an expert on the plant, it's worth reading and following.

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/lynandmalcolm/brugmansias_page_2.htm


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