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grace27-May-03 05:28 PM EST
Eugene28-May-03 12:27 PM EST 3a   
grace29-May-03 11:42 PM EST   
Eugene30-May-03 12:07 PM EST   
grace31-May-03 01:50 AM EST   
JoanneS02-Jun-03 12:46 PM EST 3a   
grace04-Jun-03 02:51 AM EST   
JoanneS05-Jun-03 01:29 PM EST 3a   


Subject: large Blue Spruce Shades south facing front
From: grace
Date: 27-May-03 05:28 PM EST

My daughter in Edmonton has a large Blue Spruce in front of her house, which faces south. This tree shades her front yard very well, but I imagine there's still a lot of heat there. We're wondering what would grow well in her front yard. She's also got a flower bed facing south against her garage in the back yard. I thought a Clematis might grow well there. What kind is good for that area?


Subject: RE: large Blue Spruce Shades south facing front
From: Eugene
Zone: 3a
Date: 28-May-03 12:27 PM EST

A small flowering Tangutica Clematis should do well. I have one called "My Angel", loaded with bell shape orange and yellow flowers bewteen July and September. It survived the last winter here in Edmonton. Its hardiness is USDA Zone 2. You can get it from Greenland at Sherwood Park.


Subject: RE: large Blue Spruce Shades south facing front
From: grace
Zone:
Date: 29-May-03 11:42 PM EST

Thanks, Eugene. I have a clematis called Tangutica with small yellow bell flowers. My husband isn't really that excited about it, so I thought I could give that one (IF I can dig it up) to her for her back yard. It might look nice up against her privacy fence, which faces east. I think we should get shorter plants for her front yard, which is mostly shaded by that huge Blue Spruce. Do you have any more ideas?


Subject: RE: large Blue Spruce Shades south facing front
From: Eugene
Zone:
Date: 30-May-03 12:07 PM EST

For Clematis, try Silver Moon (lavender), Will Goodwin (pale blue), Nelly Moser (pale mauve), Joan Picton (lilac), Dr. Ruppell (rose pink). They are all shade tolerant and less than 10' tall. As an alternative, plant some Hostas, they are shade tolerant also.


Subject: RE: large Blue Spruce Shades south facing front
From: grace
Zone:
Date: 31-May-03 01:50 AM EST

Great...thanks, Eugene.


Subject: RE: large Blue Spruce Shades south facing front
From: JoanneS (jstraayer@specialty.ab.ca)
Zone: 3a
Date: 02-Jun-03 12:46 PM EST

Although they don't like full sun, (I suspect that that is not a concern) various rhododendrons would do well in the high acid soil. Elegans and catawbiense do extremely well for me here in Edmonton.

Are you looking for shrubs or for groundcover. I've seen periwinkle do well under spruce.


Subject: RE: large Blue Spruce Shades south facing front
From: grace
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Date: 04-Jun-03 02:51 AM EST

Joanne, would periwinkle grow well in a north facing flower planter? What flowers would you suggest for a brick planter in a north bed? We can't afford non-stop begonias. And what vines would work? Are there any perennials that would grow there, between the vines?


Subject: RE: large Blue Spruce Shades south facing front
From: JoanneS (jstraayer@specialty.ab.ca)
Zone: 3a
Date: 05-Jun-03 01:29 PM EST

Periwinkle should work well. I'm not sure how it would survive the winter in a planter, but it might be worth a try.

Non-stop begonias are nice, but my favourite shade flowers are impatiens. Not the bigger New Guinea impatiens, but the smaller ones. You usually buy them in those 4 or 6-packs. They bush out quite nicely and come in a wide range of colours. They bloom non-stop until frost and you don't have to dead head them. Since I have so much shade in my front garden, I use lots of impatiens. I especially love the doubles. They look like little roses. I know people who take clippings each year before the first frost, and plant them up for the next spring's planting.

I'm sorry, but I don't know too much about shade loving vines. Certain varieties of summer blooming clematis have done okay for me in heavy shade. Right now, I have Jackmanii and Ville De Lyon thriving in my shady front. Also some of the alpina variety are fabulous in shade. I grow macropetalia, although Frances Riva and some kind of pink one do well. One of the houses in my neighbourhood has the yellow alpina type growing in through their spruce tree. The tree must be 30 feet tall and it is spectacular to see.


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