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Heather24-May-03 10:55 AM EST 6a   
Ed 24-May-03 05:40 PM EST 5a   
Maria24-Jul-03 10:38 AM EST 5a   
sandy27-Jul-03 10:46 PM EST 3b   
Marion31-Jul-03 10:00 AM EST 3a   
Marion31-Jul-03 10:01 AM EST 3a   
ramblin' rose06-Aug-03 08:03 AM EST 8a   
C.Widzyk15-Nov-03 08:36 PM EST 5a   
Gabrielle 12-Jan-04 08:11 AM EST 5b   
dian15-Jan-04 11:57 AM EST 3b   
PatA16-Jan-04 08:10 PM EST 3   
Ann06-Mar-04 03:47 PM EST 5b   
peggy08-Jul-04 05:27 PM EST 3a   
dian21-Jul-04 11:27 AM EST   
Ann21-Jul-04 05:01 PM EST 5b   
tim29-Jul-04 03:56 PM EST 8a   
crazymom18-Aug-04 06:55 AM EST 3b   
ramblin' rose26-Aug-04 11:46 PM EST 8a   
crazymom30-Aug-04 01:16 PM EST 3b   
cyndi20-Jul-05 06:19 AM EST 5a   
Michelle25-Sep-05 11:58 PM EST 5   


Subject: Help With Climbing Roses
From: Heather
Zone: 6a
Date: 24-May-03 10:55 AM EST

It's almost the end of May and my climbing roses which are approximately 8 years old only have a few leaves on three canes. Should I cut them back? Is anyone else experiencing the same thing?


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: Ed
Zone: 5a
Date: 24-May-03 05:40 PM EST

Climbing or pillar rose; Heather, that is the question. Normally, if a branch has no sign of new foliage by the end of May, it may be written off as caput and is usually cut back to the first indication of having survived the past winter. Cutting out winter-killed branches has no bearing on future performance; it's entirely a matter of aesthetics. All things being equal,a climber/pillar, couldn't care less if dead branches are left or removed; they are programmed to reproduce and refuse to allow a few dead branches to divert their primeal destiny.


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: Maria
Zone: 5a
Date: 24-Jul-03 10:38 AM EST

Hi Heather; It's now nearly the end of July--how are your climbing roses doing? I have what the label said is a Dortmund Climbing Rose. It doesn't climb, just branches out in big stalks. The blossoms are a deep red, rather old-fashioned-looking, which is what I like. But in order to get it to climb up my arbour, I've got to 'convince' it with twine pulled in the direction I think it should climb. So far so good. Because of the late season, this rose bloomed late, but did bloom & is still steadily at it. For a zone 6a, roses should easily survive the winter. However, did you mulch around the base in the winter? I agree with Ed, cutting out the last year's canes is not required, but usually visually preferred. Good luck. Let us know how your roses are faring, please?


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: sandy
Zone: 3b
Date: 27-Jul-03 10:46 PM EST

I have a William Baffin climber, and was wondering after you cut oof the spent blloms, will they bloom again in that area? Or just the top growth!


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: Marion
Zone: 3a
Date: 31-Jul-03 10:00 AM EST

I've had a climbing rose for about 6 years, tag went missing long ago but I remember it's supposed to be red. I've never seen it bloom, but grows beautifully bushy. It's in full sun and I've tried everything to make it bloom. Can anyone help?


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: Marion
Zone: 3a
Date: 31-Jul-03 10:01 AM EST

I've had a climbing rose for about 6 years, tag went missing long ago but I remember it's supposed to be red. I've never seen it bloom, but grows beautifully bushy. It's in full sun and I've tried everything to make it bloom. Can anyone help?


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: ramblin' rose
Zone: 8a
Date: 06-Aug-03 08:03 AM EST

Hi, Marion.....I've been wondering about your question here and am going to ask you, "Do you fertlize your climber with Nitrogen, very much? The reason is maybe you should try giving the rose some bloom-booster(0-12-12), only phosphorous and Potash....It wouldn't hurt to maybe prune the tips of the laterals(those are the side shoots off the main canes), down, maybe three or four sets of five leaves to an outside leaf, so that the roses won't cross into the climber or shoot outfront! This way, I'm a firm believer that what you take away, you give back to the rose...yell, some more, if you need more help! Elaine


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: C.Widzyk
Zone: 5a
Date: 15-Nov-03 08:36 PM EST

Purchased a home that has roses about 5 different colours. Are they all to be pruned down, I am a novice gardener, and I don't know much about Roses. They are all quite beautiful,and were still blooming until the end of October. I don't want to wreck them. Can someone point the way to a book which describes different Roses and their care.


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: Gabrielle (DUVAL.26@rogers.com)
Zone: 5b
Date: 12-Jan-04 08:11 AM EST

To C.Widzyk

Since your zone is similar to mine, I will offer some guidance. I will recommend "Growing Roses in Cold Climates" by J. Olson and J. Whitman; also authour Lois Hole has a couple of great inexpensive books called something like "Hardy Roses", but I cannot name the exact title. Lois Hole would be more readable; the Olson and Whitman is clear but kind of technical.

For both these volumes I add the proviso that these books include instructions for down to zone 2. This means, if you follow all winterizing advice, you are guarenteed success with more fall-time work; if you manage to identify your rose as being reliably cold-tolerant for your area (which it likely is), you can skip some of the winterizing measures (I skip all of it; my roses are hardy from zone 5-3 and do well enough without)

5. Get yourself a catalogue or surf the website at Pickering Nurseries (www.pickeringnurseries.com) or other similar business which gives useful general info on zone 5. Surfing other mail-order sites can be a great "free" source of info, just make sure your info is suitable to zone 5, not Southern California!

For the first year, while you try to identify your roses, do this:

1. Don't prune anything until you get new growth sprouting.

2a. Try to contact previous owner to find out rose names/varieties (s/he misses them and will want to tell you if s/he can)

2b. Failing 2a, take some pictures of the plant when growth is upon it, and visit your local nursery/rosarian for help in identifying it. Show size, leaf colour/shinyness, new growth colour.

3. While you are doing this, your rose will be growing. Give it whatever type of nourishment you choose, either formulated chemical or organic. One season of "whatever" won't hurt as long as you do NOT overdose on chemicals (these have the advantage however of being balanced for a good bloom)!

4. Prune off any "winter killed" cane which is definitely NOT going to produce buds or shoots (tends to be darker, dead-looking wood). Exactly how to prune is much discussed, but actually very simple. Once you know what your rose is, and zone it is likely hardy to, prune by the book. Don't worry. You'll make some mistakes, but the rose will recover.

Don't worry - it takes more than a year to undo a healthy rose. Let me know when you get this far if you have anymore questions.

P.S. if you have any fresh, fluffy snow (not ice chunks, no road salt!), you can mound it up to cover as much of your roses as possible. This will provide wind protection and a good ground soaking at thaw-time!

LOL, Gabrielle.


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: dian
Zone: 3b
Date: 15-Jan-04 11:57 AM EST

I was advised when I had a problem like you to sprinkle a cupfull of Epsom salts around the base of the rose and water it in and I am glad to say it worked. T omake sure it survives the Winter ,next fall before the ground frezes without digging up the roots take it down and bury it coverwith earth from another part of your garden and coverthat with sacking and or leaves


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: PatA
Zone: 3
Date: 16-Jan-04 08:10 PM EST

Dian, I'd advise some caution with the epsom salt. Too much can have a toxic effect. In particular any region with low rainfall or clay soils can accumulate the salt at the rootzone and cause problems. A good balanced fertilizer with micro nutrients will give you a balance feed for roses without the burning of 'salt'

Your advice on mulching is bang on! That's the only way tender roses survive in our zone 3(brrr)gardens.

Another couple of good Canadian rose books: The Prairie Rose Garden by Jan Mather, Lois Hole's Rose Favourites by Lois Hole, Roses for the Prairies by University of Saskatchewan.(George Shewchuck? I think is the author)

And just when you thought you got it all figured out... I faithfully covered my Damask 'Madame Hardy' and Gallica 'Tuscany Superb' for the first 3 years and then last winter never got around to it. To my delight they bloomed profusely this past summer. Horticulture - it's a mystery not an exact science!


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: Ann
Zone: 5b
Date: 06-Mar-04 03:47 PM EST

Marion:- Sounds to me as if your rose is sending up sucker growth that is why it is not flowering now. Have a look where the shoots come from, if it is deep below the soil, probably suckers and it will never flower.


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: peggy
Zone: 3a
Date: 08-Jul-04 05:27 PM EST

Many of my roses-Explorers,Mordens and David Austin are sending up branches that are exceptionally long and slim, some 5 feet. The problem is that they end up lying flat on the ground and often snapping at the base. This is a first for me in 6 years of rose growing. Is it due to our wet spring and summer or what?


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: dian
Zone:
Date: 21-Jul-04 11:27 AM EST

Thanks Pat for the warning of using Epsom salts I will be sure to pass it on to my Royal Rose Society Associates. Also the Roses you mentioned not covering do not need covering as they are hardy roses who,s ancestors have been surving for centuries


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: Ann
Zone: 5b
Date: 21-Jul-04 05:01 PM EST

How true we never know with Horticulture. I have had a climbing rose for years, it always performed beautifully. This spring it sent up a few shoots and they then promptly withered and died. I cut it out (I thought) and bought a new Explorer, lo and behold the old rose is springing forth, loaded with blooms. Thankfully planted the new one away from the old. Just an observation FYI


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: tim (tanderson34@atlanticbb.net)
Zone: 8a
Date: 29-Jul-04 03:56 PM EST

I have climbing roses and they have yet to bloom, when should I expect them to bloom?


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: crazymom (crazymom@faithmail.com)
Zone: 3b
Date: 18-Aug-04 06:55 AM EST

Has anyone ever heard of the Robin Hood Rose? If you have, can you tell me what zone they are hardy to,and what their behavior is? Thanks.


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: ramblin' rose
Zone: 8a
Date: 26-Aug-04 11:46 PM EST

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/roses.php?rbSearchNmTyp=2&searchNm=Robin+Hood&sbSearch=SEARCH&lstTyp=1&tab=2..there are three different classes of roses here, crazymom


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: crazymom (crazymom@faithmail.com)
Zone: 3b
Date: 30-Aug-04 01:16 PM EST

Thanks for the info ramblin rose!

crazymom


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: cyndi
Zone: 5a
Date: 20-Jul-05 06:19 AM EST

I purchased a new "climbing blaze" rose about six weeks ago, planted it in a hole with bone meal and a pro-rowers soil mix. It's new location gets sun from dawn until mid-late afternoon (roots of plant are some what shaded through out the day and the canes are protected from the wind by lattice). I think the location is perfect ... my problem is: about a week or so later, just below the buds, the stocks turned dark and the buds bent over until, of course, they fell off. I never saw anything out of the ordinary attack it. No one at the garden centre could help. I could only find one other example on their remaining stock to show them(I know they dead head often). I finally dusted it with an insecticde/fungicide (bad stuff!) out of desperation. It was that ... or pull it out. Fortunatly it appears to be recovering. But, I would love to know what caused it ... in case this ever happens again. I have four other climbers, a morden sunrise and a living easy rose(most favorite) all in different areas or gardens. Any help would be vary appreciated.

Regards -yndi


Subject: RE: Help With Climbing Roses
From: Michelle
Zone: 5
Date: 25-Sep-05 11:58 PM EST

I have 3 hardy climbing roses [planted this summer] John Davis, Henry Kelsey, and Captain Samuel Holland, they are growing alright but i've heard conflicting info on pruning do you NOT prune for the first couple of years or when? Also do you dead head these and where just the flower head or down to a leaf node?


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