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nicky19-Mar-03 01:56 PM EST
JoanneS19-Mar-03 02:42 PM EST 3a   
Suzanne White19-Mar-03 03:51 PM EST 6   
PatA19-Mar-03 10:36 PM EST 3a   
Nicky20-Mar-03 11:20 PM EST 6b   
PatA21-Mar-03 01:59 AM EST 3a   
JoanneS24-Mar-03 01:44 PM EST 3a   
nicky24-Mar-03 07:14 PM EST 6b   
PatA25-Mar-03 08:49 PM EST 3a   
nicky25-Mar-03 11:03 PM EST 6b   
PatA28-Mar-03 01:05 AM EST 3a   
JoanneS28-Mar-03 03:49 PM EST 3a   
PatA30-Mar-03 11:09 PM EST 3a   
Nancy01-Apr-03 05:44 PM EST 5   
Ed01-Apr-03 08:57 PM EST 5b   
JoanneS02-Apr-03 12:53 PM EST 3a   
Debho02-Apr-03 10:24 PM EST 3a   


Subject: Growing Heuchera
From: nicky
Date: 19-Mar-03 01:56 PM EST

I am in love with all the Heuchera family. I did not know I could save the seed, am also finding that there are many varieties, different colors, leaves etc. I would like to hear of your experience with the family & have you saved seed etc. and the best place to obtain the plants or seed.


Subject: RE: Growing Heuchera
From: JoanneS (jstraayer@specialty.ab.ca)
Zone: 3a
Date: 19-Mar-03 02:42 PM EST

I planted Amber Wave last fall. Did very well in a semi-shade area. Not sure if it will survive my winter. We'll see.


Subject: RE: Growing Heuchera
From: Suzanne White (suzelizwhite@yahoo.com)
Zone: 6
Date: 19-Mar-03 03:51 PM EST

Hi Nicky. I have grown a couple of varieties. I really like the ones with burgundy leaves. I have grown them in shade and full sun and they were happy in both spots, although required a bit more water in the sun. I have not tried them from seed as I find that the small plants you can get from local nurseries for a dollar or two spread quite quickly. Sounds interesting though!


Subject: RE: Growing Heuchera
From: PatA
Zone: 3a
Date: 19-Mar-03 10:36 PM EST

Hi Nicky I too am a fan of heucheras. Many of the fancy leaved varieties don't come true from seed so you are best to buy those as plants. The basic unnamed heuchera sanguinea and Purple Palace seed is available from McKenzie Seeds and fancy mixed americana hybrids from Thompson & Morgan. Some are a mixed bag of tricks so if you love a mystery they are great to try. A seed propagation data base I found years ago recommends sow at 20C 'americana' hybrids germinate slow while 'sanguinea' is quick. Sorry that's as detailed as it gets. I tried AMBER WAVES, PLUM PUDDING, CHERRIES JUBILEE, FROSTY, SNOWSTORM, SNOW ANGEL,PEWTER VEIL, CHOCOLATE RUFFLES, some are from the last two years so have a winter or two under their belt and doing fine. I'm anxious for the snow to go so I can check last years plantings in particular Amber Waves. The colourations were spectacular. Mine are in morning sun, dry, clay soil and we had very severe water restrictions last year so anything that survives those odds is a winner in my eyes! Oh and just to tease you I saw the Amber Waves plants at the nursery where I work just this afternoon and they are coming on strong, lots of shoots and great colour already showing! Can't wait to get planting! PatA


Subject: RE: Growing Heuchera
From: Nicky
Zone: 6b
Date: 20-Mar-03 11:20 PM EST

PatA; Did yoy plant the ones amberwaves to choc.rufs. as seed or plants? I'm with you Siz. I love the dark ones.But Joan I'm definitely getting an amber waves this yr.I had to pay12.95 for my choc.rufs. so thats why I wanted info on growing from seed.I meant Suz.(bad typing) Nicky.


Subject: RE: Growing Heuchera
From: PatA
Zone: 3a
Date: 21-Mar-03 01:59 AM EST

Nicky, Amber Waves is only available as a plant, not a seed. I paid $15 for it but it was so stunning against the darker ones I'll buy a second one this year. Besides the price should be down just a bit because it's more readily available this year. That's the problem when you fall in love with the "Newest Thing" it always cost more the first season it's released. I don't really mind because if you think of all the work and money a company puts into developing new plants they deserve something extra atleast for a season or two.

As for the rest, I only planted plants none from seed.


Subject: RE: Growing Heuchera
From: JoanneS (jstraayer@specialty.ab.ca)
Zone: 3a
Date: 24-Mar-03 01:44 PM EST

Pat, you have me hopeful. Are you saying that the Amber Waves where you work have survived the winter? Like in a show garden? Or do you mean the seedlings grown for sale. I bet it's seedlings grown for sale.


Subject: RE: Growing Heuchera
From: nicky
Zone: 6b
Date: 24-Mar-03 07:14 PM EST

Joannes, I'm in 6b and mine have survived but they do look sick, however that was the case last year and then they took off and did great. I'm looking forward to spend- ing my G. allowance on that gorgious amber wave. What are the wanters in yours?


Subject: RE: Growing Heuchera
From: PatA
Zone: 3a
Date: 25-Mar-03 08:49 PM EST

JoanneS, the display gardens where I work still are covered in snow...However MY Amber Waves just thawed yesterday and there is a tiny sign of life so I'm pretty hopeful. Give me a couple more warm weeks and we'll see!On the plus side FROSTY a two year old plant never die off completely (good snow cover this year) and has little shoots just below the surface. Yes I'll admit I was poking and digging this afternoon. It helps to pass the time waiting for true spring on the prairies.Good luck to all with your heucheras and patience please!!!


Subject: RE: Growing Heuchera
From: nicky
Zone: 6b
Date: 25-Mar-03 11:03 PM EST

Now if one of you gardeners can tell me,have you actually saved any of your own seed,I must need new glasses, because I never found any on my plants. Are they that tiny or what.They sure havent done any reseeding on their own. I see so many savers listing the seeds? ?


Subject: RE: Growing Heuchera
From: PatA
Zone: 3a
Date: 28-Mar-03 01:05 AM EST

No Nicky, I have never saved my own seed and I have yet to se them self-seed in my zone 3a garden. They may elsewhere but our growing season is a bit short for many seed to reach proper maturity. And ofcourse, some cultivars do not produce viable seed regardless of the zone. Don't give up though on standard heucheras. You have a long enough season. you have a better chance of getting seed. Let the flowers dry on the plant then cover with a paper bag, hold securely and trim the flower stalk off. If there is any seed it will drop into the bag. Even if it looks like dust?because it is so tiny try to sow it and see what happens. Good Luck PatA


Subject: RE: Growing Heuchera
From: JoanneS (jstraayer@specialty.ab.ca)
Zone: 3a
Date: 28-Mar-03 03:49 PM EST

Pat, my front yard is melting quickly. This weekend, I plan to uncover my rhododendrons. I may have to do some poking around myself to see what else is happening out there. Doesn't the sun feel good.


Subject: RE: Growing Heuchera
From: PatA
Zone: 3a
Date: 30-Mar-03 11:09 PM EST

JoanneS, you are brave with the rhodos in zone 3. I guess from your email adress you are in Edmonton. You must have a sheltered spot and a lot of patience. Good for you! The nursery where I work will be carrying the Helsinki Rhodos this year so I am going to make a special area for them and try a few. you have me quite hopeful. And yes the Amber Waves Heuchera at the nursery I saw in glorious colour is new crop in the greenhouse. You can imagine how much torment it is to see all the new baby plants and hear we are predicted for snow by April 1st. Sick April fools joke by Mother Nature or what!!!


Subject: RE: Growing Heuchera
From: Nancy
Zone: 5
Date: 01-Apr-03 05:44 PM EST

Nicky, I've saved seed once from a Pewter veil Heuchera, and like you, had a hard time identifying what was seed and what wasn't. I wound up drying and crumbling the seed heads, then planting up the whole thing. Got one plant out of it from the entire stalk, so may have harvested the seed a little late. As PatA mentioned, the seedling was not true to the parent, but interesting and worth keeping none the less.


Subject: RE: Growing Heuchera
From: Ed
Zone: 5b
Date: 01-Apr-03 08:57 PM EST

I'm not familiar with the newer Heucheras, but have grown, enjoyed and propagated Coral Bells for over 40 years and consider them among the hardiest and most reliable of all perennials; with snow cover, many come through the winter as evergreens. Have yet to see them self-seed, but they divide so easily; lift entire plant,tap gently to remove loose soil, manually pull apart into halves, quarters, whatever, depending on desired size. Transplanted immediately directly into the garden, given normal soil preparation and care, they take off with no evidence of planting shock. Hopefully, their newer relatives respond similarly, though breeding for specific characteristics too often results in some sacrifice, perhaps in this case, vitality.


Subject: RE: Growing Heuchera
From: JoanneS (jstraayer@specialty.ab.ca)
Zone: 3a
Date: 02-Apr-03 12:53 PM EST

Pat, may I brag? I have had good luck with rhodos and I am in Edmonton. I have been growing a Roseum Elegans for about 7 years now. I moved him from our old house, where the blooms stopped traffic, to our new house, just in time for the drought. It had not time to set down proper roots and in the spring, all the leaves had dried up an fallen off. I thought it was dead, so I moved it to the back yard. Lovely little dickens, didn't die and sent out leaves all over the plant. So I moved it to a prime spot in the back yard and am looking forward to its blooms. I replaced it in the front with a Bourseault. This is the one of the three that I uncovered. It came through the winter in PERFECT shape. No damage anywhere. It is on it's second spring and has one beautiful flower bud. I did not fertilize last year, again because of the drought, so I am surprised at getting even one flower bud.

I've tried other rhodos, and some seem to handle our harsh winds better than others. That seems to be the biggest problem with some of the really hardy ones, not that the plant survives, but the damage to the foliage.

I'm hunting down a particular type of Magnolia now. That will be my next challenge.


Subject: RE: Growing Heuchera
From: Debho
Zone: 3a
Date: 02-Apr-03 10:24 PM EST

I got Palace Purple seeds from Thompson and Morgan. I was lucky and got 100% germination. Started Feb18th and they are now at the 2'nd set of true leaves.


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