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betty11-Feb-03 10:40 AM EST 4   
ED11-Feb-03 09:12 PM EST 5a   
betty12-Feb-03 10:49 AM EST 4   
Ed12-Feb-03 09:02 PM EST 5a   
Susan13-Feb-03 08:05 AM EST 6a   
Nancy13-Feb-03 06:22 PM EST 5   

Subject: planting 9m circle
From: betty
Zone: 4
Date: 11-Feb-03 10:40 AM EST

I have to plant a 9m circle , what is surroundet by fieldstones, it is on a big piece of lawn. What to plant in there? In the middle i have a tree already. Last year i planted cleome in there, but i would rather plant some shrubs,evergreen or perennials. I thought of echinacea purpurea mixed with rudbeckia fulgira. Or i could plant dwarf Mugho Pine, Dyers broom,Sedum, Dyers broom and then start with the Mugho pine again all around the inside of the circle. But what should i plant behind these shrubs? Any suggestion and thoughts are welcome. Can t waite to here from you.

Thanks already for your inputt.

Subject: RE: planting 9m circle
From: ED
Zone: 5a
Date: 11-Feb-03 09:12 PM EST

Betty, I think for starters you should let us know what kind of tree you already have in the center of your circle. If it's an evergreen, is it pyramidal; if so, how tall would you like it to grow ? do you plan to prune it to keep it to a certain height ? Do you have a colour scheme in mind ? Just a little more info might be helpful in obtaining the help you are looking for .

Subject: RE: planting 9m circle
From: betty
Zone: 4
Date: 12-Feb-03 10:49 AM EST

Ed, i have a maple tree ca 2m high now. I got it from a friend. About the colour, i like red,yellow,blue and pink,as long as they are bright, so it really sticks out. At one time i thought of yellow Marigold and red salvia behind it all around the inside but what put behind? I also like Iris,Dianthus Barbatus and one perennial i think it is called Evening Primrose, yellow flowers and the leaves are turning red in the fall.I also like very much Hemerocallis (Stella de Oro) because it is flowering all summer till the end of fall. What about Achillea Millefolium(Cerise Queen), this one is flowering from June to September, but i have not seen it flowering so i don"t know how strong that colour is. I hope you can help me out here. I live in a country, so this place is pretty open.

Subject: RE: planting 9m circle
From: Ed
Zone: 5a
Date: 12-Feb-03 09:02 PM EST

Because each of us has personal tastes suggesting what another should plant can become dicey ! Making a mistake in gardening is not the end of the world, so why not just go ahead and experiment with what you think you would enjoy, look at what others are doing and eventually, by trial and error, the questions you asked will answer themselves. I think I can almost guarantee pleasant surprises will greatly outweigh diasters.

Subject: RE: planting 9m circle
From: Susan
Zone: 6a
Date: 13-Feb-03 08:05 AM EST

I can't resist jumping in here with a few comments....

Most of the perennial plants you list, Betty, are sun lovers and keep in mind that a maple tree is going to cast a fair bit of shade as it matures, especially if it happens to be the dreaded Norway Maple with its large, overlapping leaves. Maples are also notorious for having plentiful greedy, thirsty roots so planting under them gets more difficult as they get bigger. When the tree is small, your sun loving plants will probably do OK but they'll gradually get shaded out, although the outer edges may still get enough sun for them, especially on the east and south sides. You probably need to plan on adding a few shade tolerant things like hostas. Daylilies will probably do reasonably well for quite a long time as they can take a reasonable degree of shade and tough conditions so adding lots of them would be a good idea. It would probably also be a good idea to put down soaker hoses and mulch to retain as much mosture/make watering efficient to compensate for the tree roots as the tree grows. Moisture is important to maintain as most shade shrubs that you might try will need water. With adequate moisture, try some of the variegated dogwoods, viburnums such as American or European Highbush Cranberries - beautiful white flowers in early summer and vivid red fruit in winter -, native holly - deciduous but red berries in winter. Can you grow evergreen Euonymus? It's listed as zone 5 but maybe you could try it as an alternative to coniferous evergreens.

As Ed says, you just have to try things and see what works.....

Subject: RE: planting 9m circle
From: Nancy
Zone: 5
Date: 13-Feb-03 06:22 PM EST

I'll echo what both Ed and Susan said.

One other thing to consider with a planting this wide is to plan for accessing the interior of the circle where you can't reach from the outside edge. I have one very long and wide island bed and have laid stepping stones down the middle and across at several points. This way I can get in to weed, plant, and deadhead without trampling plants or compacting the soil too much.

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