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13-Jan-03 03:36 PM EST 4   
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Bev14-Mar-03 11:09 AM EST 4   
PatA15-Mar-03 01:05 AM EST 3a   
Bev15-Mar-03 11:33 AM EST 4   
PatA15-Mar-03 09:59 PM EST 3a   


Subject: Tomatoe problems
From:
Zone: 4
Date: 13-Jan-03 03:36 PM EST

Over the past two years I have had problems with tomatoes not ripening fully. The tops have green, dry and hard splotches while the rest of the fruit seems to ripen just fine.

Help! - grateful for any input! I had asked this question last fall and some kind and knowlegeable person advised me to add something to the soil - I did not write it down and my memory is playing it's usual havoc on me - I forget what it was!


Subject: RE: Tomatoe problems
From: ilona
Zone: 6a
Date: 23-Feb-03 07:41 PM EST

Was it Calcium? or Boron? Calcium may be more likely if your soil is acidic, as it raises the Ph to from acid to more neutral.


Subject: RE: Tomatoe problems
From: Bev
Zone:
Date: 13-Mar-03 02:53 PM EST

Thank you! It was Calcium. I have alot of pine and cedar here - so it makes sense.

What are the symptoms of Boron deficiencies?

Cheers! Bev


Subject: RE: Tomatoe problems
From: PatA
Zone: 3a
Date: 14-Mar-03 12:28 AM EST

Bev, you are more likely to be dealing with a potassium deficiency,if the top of the fruit near where the stem joins is affected. The bottom part affected (called blossom-end rot) is a symtom of cacium deficiency and uneven watering. The drown and drought syndrome I call it. Boron is needed in such a tiny, tiny amount that it is not likely the problem. In fact too much boron can be toxic to plants. Try a fertilizer with high phosphorus and potassium and micro-nutrients this year. The granular Green Earth and Green Valley contain the most calcium but the water soluble Plant Prod for Tomatoes has all the micros. I mix either of the granular in the soil with my tomatoes at planting AND use the water soluble every two weeks. Hope this helps you! :-) PS Boron deficiency usually shows up on root veggies only as dark patches on the root and blackening of the heart ex. turnip center going black


Subject: RE: Tomatoe problems
From: Bev
Zone: 4
Date: 14-Mar-03 11:09 AM EST

PatA Thanks! Appreciate the input. To further clarify, it is the top of the fruit that is effected by the problem. It simply does not ripen and the inside of the fruit is slightly hollow and dry. I trust that is in keeping with your theory about a pot. deficiency? Bev.


Subject: RE: Tomatoe problems
From: PatA
Zone: 3a
Date: 15-Mar-03 01:05 AM EST

Yes that is a sure sign of potassium defeciency! I'm glad I could help.

Do you grow tomatoes in the garden or in pots? I switched mine to pots two seasons ago because of our really short summer here and I love it. The results were awesome. I had RIPE fruit on the plants by Aug (Early Girl var.)I used half oak barrels against the south side of my house and it was just the perfect micro climate. There is room in each barrel for 1 Tomato and 6 Basil(I'm a bruchetta fan) Now if I could only grow toasted bread I could live outside all summer HaHa! PatA


Subject: RE: Tomatoe problems
From: Bev
Zone: 4
Date: 15-Mar-03 11:33 AM EST

Good idea! I currently grow toms. in the garden, but was planning to get creative this spring and make some monster containers using a concrete and moss mixture - fill with a good balanced soil and try to beat nature at it's game! With the acid levels, due to the pine and cedar trees, I cannot seem to get the results I want- anywhere - so sounds like your idea of pots is the best solution. The garden spaces/plots cover several acres, hosting perennial plants and shrubs, annuals, herbs and veggies. Do you think the concrete content would be a problem for tomatoes or any other veg/edible crop? I hear ya on the toast thing - we are big on pesto too. I had fun last year with a cinnamon basil. It was excellant in salads and stuffed between two layers of white fish fillets and grilled on the BBQ. I can't wait to get started on a new season! Thx again. Bev.


Subject: RE: Tomatoe problems
From: PatA
Zone: 3a
Date: 15-Mar-03 09:59 PM EST

Bev, I shouldn't look at this forum before dinner I'm getting hungry! The cement really shouldn't have much effect on the plants. Concrete containers are used all the time with no problems. Where I work we always plant up several concrete and rock agregate(pebbled) planters all fresh from the factory and I have never seen any plants suffer. On the topic of basil Sweet Dani is awesome as pesto really lemon flavour and this year I'm trying Lime from Thompson & Morgan Seeds. That puts me to 8 varieties from seed & maybe more if I purchase plants during the season.

My hubby is begging for food so I'll talk again another time PatA


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