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MYKE questions


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donna21-Nov-02 12:29 PM EST 3a   
sandy04-Dec-02 09:02 PM EST 3b   
donna@icangarden.com05-Dec-02 12:15 AM EST 3a   
Susan05-Dec-02 07:10 AM EST 6a   
John Dionne07-Dec-02 09:02 AM EST 3a   
Sue07-Dec-02 01:38 PM EST 6a   
Ed09-Dec-02 09:24 PM EST 5a   
Susan10-Dec-02 07:21 AM EST 6a   
Tom Dawson10-Dec-02 09:49 AM EST 3a   
Garth Carl12-Dec-02 04:04 PM EST 2b   
Rob12-Dec-02 05:05 PM EST 3a   
Susan12-Dec-02 08:37 PM EST 6a   
Dan28-Dec-02 01:33 PM EST   
teresa 12-Jan-03 06:02 PM EST 5b   
Dan24-Jan-03 11:09 AM EST   
Carmen11-Feb-03 01:37 AM EST 8   
Susan11-Feb-03 08:16 AM EST 6a   
karen17-Mar-03 11:53 AM EST 2a   
teresa 18-Mar-03 08:22 PM EST 5b   
betsy02-Apr-03 01:52 PM EST 5a   
Glen04-Apr-03 01:18 AM EST 7b   
08-Apr-03 12:49 PM EST   
Carla11-Apr-03 10:42 AM EST 5b   
Susan11-Apr-03 01:09 PM EST 6a   
GlenT22-Apr-03 02:12 AM EST 7   


Subject: MYKE questions
From: donna
Zone: 3a
Date: 21-Nov-02 12:29 PM EST

Who out there has been using this product. Do you have any questions on it? We will be having one of the reps from MYKE on our On-Line chat coming up - watch for our calendar showing when our guest chat hosts will be on line for our Chats.

I know I have spoken with some of you who have used the products and have been very happy with them and others who were not quite sure how they are used, so if you have any questions...this is the place to put them.


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: sandy
Zone: 3b
Date: 04-Dec-02 09:02 PM EST

Is MYKE suitible for all kinds of soils? Is it better then using bonemeal? What are the advantages in using this product?


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: donna@icangarden.com
Zone: 3a
Date: 05-Dec-02 12:15 AM EST

Hi Sandy...we have quite a bit of information on the site on MYKE...here is the link and I think after reading it all, you will ahve a much better understanding of MYKE. MYKE is a product that is for the roots of plants, in many types of soils.

http://www.icangarden.com/mykephil.cfm


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: Susan
Zone: 6a
Date: 05-Dec-02 07:10 AM EST

Sandy - I had my doubts about MYKE at first, although I was familiar with the concept of beneficial, symbiotic fungus. I was intending to experiment by planting some things with it and some without and compare. However, our spring here was late and quite cold so I figured everything needed all the help it could get so I used it to plant everything. I started a large new perennial bed on the front lawn that I figured would take 2-3 years to 'fill in' properly. By late July, it was wall-to-wall plants! I'd never seen things grow so fast. I'm not sure if it was totally due to MYKE but it was enough to convince me that it was certainly worth using the stuff. When I removed the tomato plants this fall, I found they had the most amazing root system I'd ever seen - some of the roots almost looked woody. Lavender that I was growing in nursery boxes before planting out also had very large root systems and, once transplanted into the garden, have turned into large, bushy shrubs already. It'll be interesting to see, if we have a hard winter, whether things survive the winter better than expected.

While the product comes packaged for various plant types (e.g. trees and shrubs, flowers, bulbs, vegetables...), when I ran out of one, I used whatever type I had left. It didn't seem to make a noticeable difference.

I used the bulb type for planting all my fall bulbs. I don't use bonemeal so we'll see how the bulbs do in the spring. It certainly doesn't have any squirrel-deterrant effects as I see lots of squirrel holes in the garden!

I garden on heavy clay soil so it seems to work in that soil type just fine.


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: John Dionne
Zone: 3a
Date: 07-Dec-02 09:02 AM EST

Summer of 2002. I have used MYKE extensively in my gardens this year. I had great results dispite the hot dry summer that we had. I watered a lot as I did the summer before but the results this year were just amazing. The root systems on all my plants were huge and strong. A lot of the annuals that had to be pulled out this fall were almost impossible to pull out. I hope the same happened to my perenial plants. It should give them a better chance to servive the winter which is looking to be another tough winter for them with all this warm and cold weather and no snow to protect them.


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: Sue (makeuplady@rogers.com)
Zone: 6a
Date: 07-Dec-02 01:38 PM EST

Like John, I used Myke extensively this past Summer. The plants were very healthy despite the very cold Spring and the "blast furnace" summer. I did notice that the annuals did have very extensive root systems and that probably helped them survive well. The perennials that were planted (three new beds) took very well and grew beautifully; especially the hostas. Come to think of it, not one plant, whether annual or perennial was lost.


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: Ed
Zone: 5a
Date: 09-Dec-02 09:24 PM EST

Aside from this site and the extremely positive testimonials on this forum, the product seems to be unknown in E. Ont. How extensively, coast to coast, is it advertised, distributed and used?


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: Susan
Zone: 6a
Date: 10-Dec-02 07:21 AM EST

Canadian Tire was the easiest place to find it. Many larger garden centers carried it too. It was easiest to find in the spring and harder to find as the season wore on. It's made by a company in Quebec(Premier Technologies Ltd.). It's a smallish company so they may not have a sales force of sufficient size to get it widely distributed yet. Personally, I'm sort of hoping a bigger player in the agrigultural/horticultural field picks it up (buys out the company or the product line...) so it gets wider distribution so it's easier to find. I certainly intend to use it again next year and I suspect most people who've tried it would do the same.


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: Tom Dawson
Zone: 3a
Date: 10-Dec-02 09:49 AM EST

Just to add my cents worth - One of the major reasons you would have found it difficult to source MYKE through local garden centres is it's unique nature - unfortunately too many garden centres are unwilling to handle a new product that requires some consumer education - its easier to sell the same old stuff - I believe that next year you will see more local garden centres carrying MYKE as a result of more gardeners asking for it this year - if you're finding it difficult to locate, let us know and we'll find out who is carrying it in your area -


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: Garth Carl
Zone: 2b
Date: 12-Dec-02 04:04 PM EST

Lots of talk about how good MYKE is but no one has mentioned the cost of the product. How much does it cost??


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: Rob
Zone: 3a
Date: 12-Dec-02 05:05 PM EST

I agree that MYKE appeared to work, but I found it quite expensive, especially if you are using it for annuals every year. The investment for tree/shrubs and perennials seems to be worth it.

When I read the package, it seemed that the product didn't work on evergreen, and a lot of the specices that I was interested in eg Birch, Oak and Lindens. Are new products being developed for these speicies?


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: Susan
Zone: 6a
Date: 12-Dec-02 08:37 PM EST

I was usually paying $10-12 for the 1.5L size. Their web site says they have a 4L size but I never saw that in the stores I shopped at. I didn't consider it a too-outrageous a price but then I spend a lot on my garden each year I'm afraid...:) Rob, their web site says both the Trees and Shrubs and the new Hedges types works for 'evergreens and hardwoods'. There's nothing on their web site that lists specific species exclusions that I could find. I didn't read the packaging closely enough to note any and I didn't plant any of the species you listed (I have an oak tree but it was here when we bought the house.....)

You could try asking them about it. They have a contact page (not e-mail...) on their site - go to:

http://www.premiertech.com/unites/ptb/intro_ang.htm

and click on the 'Contact us' on the menu on the left.


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: Dan (dbclost@sympatico.ca)
Zone:
Date: 28-Dec-02 01:33 PM EST

I have to agree with Tom. I don't understand why garden centres, nurseries, etc. that are open to the retail sector, don't have large "organic" or "environment friendly" sections. To me, it is a no-brainer. I also think it is important that those of us in the green industry accept the respnsibility of educating the customer instead of the other way 'round. Products like MYKE are the wave of the future. If you want your centre to carry this product here's what to do. Ask the store manager for MYKE. If they say they don't carry it, ask if they know of a source. If one is not forthcoming, scare them with your perserverance. For example, "I think the Independent Grocery Store carries it in their parking lot stand. I'll go there."


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: teresa
Zone: 5b
Date: 12-Jan-03 06:02 PM EST

Hi Dan yes thomson independent store carried it this year for 9.99 I had read about it in a magazine and could'nt wait to try it. used 4 containers of it this past season. teresa


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: Dan (dbclost@sympatico.ca)
Zone:
Date: 24-Jan-03 11:09 AM EST

Hi teresa, I know you pack a lot of plants in your garden. How did the Myke work for you?


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: Carmen
Zone: 8
Date: 11-Feb-03 01:37 AM EST

I'm jumping into this late but I have never heard of MYKE. What is it. I gather from the threads it is some sort of organic fertilizer. Could someone please enlighten me?? Thanks


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: Susan
Zone: 6a
Date: 11-Feb-03 08:16 AM EST

Carmen - it's not a fertilizer - it's a beneficial, symbiotic fungus that lives with the roots of the plants. The plant give it sugars and the fungus effectively extends the reach of the plant roots and gives the plants nutrients. The plants develop some amazing root systems. The fungus occurs naturally in soils; adding the MYKE stuff into planting holes makes sure that the roots get innoculated with the fungus quickly. It probably has the best effect in poor, depleted soils that would not have much in the way of naturally occuring fungus. You might want to look at the information on their web site at:

http://www.premiertech.com/unites/ptb/intro_ang.htm

It's actually a Canadian company based in Quebec.


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: karen
Zone: 2a
Date: 17-Mar-03 11:53 AM EST

This may seem like a stupid question, but here it goes! Would using "mike" be beneficial on first year gardens after plants have has there time to develop?


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: teresa
Zone: 5b
Date: 18-Mar-03 08:22 PM EST

Hi Dan I really can't say how well myke works until this comming year. (can't remember which plants I myked.) there should be improvement I can notice this year. by the by white rose had myke on for 3.99 a container, bought 4 more for this year.


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: betsy
Zone: 5a
Date: 02-Apr-03 01:52 PM EST

Mistakenly used MYKE on my rhodos while transplanting. Will this cause problems? Notice after label states not effective on rhodos.


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: Glen
Zone: 7b
Date: 04-Apr-03 01:18 AM EST

Betsy-the MYKE won't hurt your rhodos or any other incompatible plants. It's just an unnecessary expense.

Rhodos do have mycorrhizae, but noone has been able to culture it commercially. What I have done is dig up soil from the roots of rhodo relatives (salal and huckleberry are common in undisturbed forest areas here) and sprinkle this around the root ball as I plant.

In some cases, commercial peat moss has been found to contain myco propagules for rhodo family, so I always throw some peat moss around the planting area and in contact with the roots as well.

I have found mycorrhizae very valuable in my little backyard nursery, good payback for just pennies per plant when innoculated at the seedling or cutting stage--Glen


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
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Date: 08-Apr-03 12:49 PM EST


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: Carla
Zone: 5b
Date: 11-Apr-03 10:42 AM EST

What is the technique for using Myke in an established garden. Can it be sprinkled around perennials and shrubs like a granular fertilizer or does it have to be dug in. I would like to try this product this spring but I am a bit of a lazy gardener and there are lots of other chores for me. Don't need another one. Thanks Carla


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: Susan
Zone: 6a
Date: 11-Apr-03 01:09 PM EST

Here's what the FAQ section on the 'Garden Club' section of the MYKE site says about that:

"The best moment to use the growth supplement is when seeding or planting. It is however possible to apply MYKE® on already established plants or trees, by adding MYKE® as a side-dress, where new roots will develop in the drip-zone."

I planted everything last year with MYKE and everything grew very well. I kept intending to do some testing- planting some things with it and some without, but the planting season was awful last year and I figured everything needed all the help it could get! It looks like this year is shaping up the same way! I have some containers of MYKE products that I left in an unheated shed last fall. I'm just going to sprinkle whatever is left in them around the garden. I expect the fungus might be dead in them now, but the medium will be good for the garden anyway...:) You might be interested in more of the FAQ at:

http://www.premiertech.com/myke/mycorise/index.htm


Subject: RE: MYKE questions
From: GlenT
Zone: 7
Date: 22-Apr-03 02:12 AM EST

Carla-in agriculture they often recommend innoculating seed of a "cover crop" and sowing that in a vineyard or orchard, for example. The idea is to get these plant roots growing down into the soil and meeting up with the established perennial type plant roots, and the myco fungus will jump over from one root to the other kind of thing.

In your garden, you might want to innoculate some annual bedding plants and set them in amongst the perennials, this should establish the MYKE in that area of soil. This should be better use of the innoculant than trying to just work it into the bare soil above the roots of an established plant-IMO...


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