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Arbour vine


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Alnoro25-May-02 01:02 PM EST 8   
Susan25-May-02 01:56 PM EST 6a   
alnoro25-May-02 04:56 PM EST 8   
Susan25-May-02 10:38 PM EST 6a   
Lee26-May-02 10:19 AM EST 6a   
Alnoro26-May-02 01:06 PM EST 8   
jak27-May-02 08:47 AM EST 4   
edstoltz@ripnet.com27-May-02 06:56 PM EST 5b   


Subject: Arbour vine
From: Alnoro (alnoro@shaw.ca)
Zone: 8
Date: 25-May-02 01:02 PM EST

I have just finished building an arbour over a gate. The bottom 2' is in shade. I would like a lightning fast evergreen,flowering vine or climbing rose to grow on it.It's in good loamy soil with a south face. I have Clematis jackmanii started up it now but that is deciduous and goes back to ground for the winter. I have heard of the silver lace vine but can't find it and can't find out much about it. Is it a perrenial?evergreen? I have a small Trumpet vine starting in a container that will probably outgrow it's container next year. Would that do ok at the arbour? will it winter outside? Lots of Questions need lots of suggestions and answers thanks.


Subject: RE: Arbour vine
From: Susan
Zone: 6a
Date: 25-May-02 01:56 PM EST

Silver Lace Vine is Polgonum aubertii. It is a woody vine but not evergreen. It is very rampant - tries to take over the world! Sometines parts of it die over the winter but it usually revives from any bits that survived. It has white flowers in late summer. The flowers are nice but attract every wasp and hornet in the neighborhood! - could make getting throught the gate tricky for anyone allergic to stings....

Trumpet vine is also a big, agressive vine when it gets going. It is not evegreen either but would certainly survive outdoors - if you mean Campsis radicans, it's hardy to zone 5. If you're planning to have either of these on your arbor, it had better be a very strong, well built arbour!

Your best bet may be to stick with clematis and climbing roses. For winter interest plant some small evergreen shrubs (maybe a small Box or Rose Daphne..) at the foot of the arbour - the clematis will appreciate the shade. The only evergreen vine I can think of is ivy but it doesn't flower. However, it could make an interesting background for the clamatis to climb on...


Subject: RE: Arbour vine
From: alnoro (alnoro@shaw.ca)
Zone: 8
Date: 25-May-02 04:56 PM EST

Susan: thanks for the info. I think I'll see if I can find a Lightning fast clematis that doesn't want pruned or dies back over the winter. The silver lace sounds great but the wasps and hornets are a real concern I guess I'll pass. I"m just impatient I think. The trumpet vine will be fine once it gets up the arbour but for now the arbour looks so bare with nothing up or over the top it sticks out like a sore thumb.I have a 2yr old White Dawn climbing rose in another large container maybe I will do something temporary this year(any ideas?) and then earlier next spring put the Trumpet vine on one side and the White dawn on the other. Does that sound like a good idea? Thanks


Subject: RE: Arbour vine
From: Susan
Zone: 6a
Date: 25-May-02 10:38 PM EST

If you're looking for temporary, one year coverage, try Morning Glories. They're a fast growing annual and they'll blossom non-stop from early July to frost. I have them on lattices around the front porch with things like Sweet Autumn clematis and a couple of other clematises that get cut back to ground level each spring (so it's easy to pull off the Morning Glory foliage too...)


Subject: RE: Arbour vine
From: Lee
Zone: 6a
Date: 26-May-02 10:19 AM EST

In your zone, you might like to try the evergreen clematis--Armand-. It had fragrant white blooms in spring, and then the seedpod display later. Its rated for zone 7-9, and grows 20-30 feet. This is info I gleaned from reading +++ garden books, not actual experience.

For evergreen vines, I do have experience with Euonymus fortunei "Coloratus". It is sold as a ground cover in 3 inch pots in my area, but it climbs well too. No flowers, but nice glossy small leaves that have covered my 8 foot high deck supports in about 2 years. Might be a nice background for your deciduous climbing vines.

I also have Lonicera Japonica --Hall's japanese honeysuckle vine which is rated as rampant, but it has been mannerly for me over the past several years. (Is the bad stuff still to come??) It has fragrant yellow blooms and small berries for the birds and is evergreen in my zone so far.

I'd avoid silver lace vine at all cost as I've seen it take over entire 1/2 acre yards in my neighbourhood.

And another one I read about is Akebia quintata, chocolate vine which would be evergreen in zones 7-9. Fast growing with fragrant flowers and later attractive pods. Maybe someone with experience with this one might comment??


Subject: RE: Arbour vine
From: Alnoro (alnoro@shaw.ca)
Zone: 8
Date: 26-May-02 01:06 PM EST

Thanks everyone I loved the response and now I have a whole new dilemma. Which of these great sounding plants should I buy. LOL I tend to go to the garden store and buy everything in sight. Maybe I should think about vining all of my fence line!!


Subject: RE: Arbour vine
From: jak
Zone: 4
Date: 27-May-02 08:47 AM EST

If you are still thinking, you could try an annual vine for one year until you research the perennial ones. I grow Cobea (Cathedral Bells or Cup and Saucer vine) in pots and then transplant outside when danger of frost is past. This is a fast growing annual which gives good coverage very quickly. It seems happiest in sun, but I will be trying it in a more shaded location this year as well. The leaves are medium sized, dark green. The flowere are quite large, a two inch saucer with a large cup in the centre. The flowers open pale yellow and turn to a dark purple as they mature. Very striking, easy to grow, easy to collect seeds for the next year. I grow mine on netting on the west side of my front porch, so I isns't a very heavy plant. I buy the seeds, if I need any, from Canadian Tire.


Subject: RE: Arbour vine
From: edstoltz@ripnet.com
Zone: 5b
Date: 27-May-02 06:56 PM EST

I suggest you explore the experience of others in your area. Most successful gardeners welcome admirers of their gardening achievements and gladly share their expertise. Whatever grows on a trellis will, in most cases, do equally well on an arbour.


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