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Ducky27-Mar-02 03:25 PM EST 4a   
George Griffin27-Mar-02 03:43 PM EST 5a   
Ducky27-Mar-02 09:58 PM EST 4a   
George Griffin28-Mar-02 06:39 AM EST 5a   
Liz28-Mar-02 11:42 AM EST 8b   
Ducky28-Mar-02 08:52 PM EST 4a   
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Ducky29-Mar-02 04:59 PM EST 4b   
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Ducky06-Apr-02 06:50 PM EST 4a   
cindy 09-Apr-02 01:42 AM EST 3a   
Ducky22-Apr-02 02:21 PM EST 4   


Subject: Angel Trumpet Tree...not floweirng
From: Ducky
Zone: 4a
Date: 27-Mar-02 03:25 PM EST

I have had my Angel Trumpet tree for about 5 years now and it has only flowered once. it's about 5.5 feet tall with alot of healthy leaves, which seem to turn yellow at times and fall off. i have it in a room that gets quite a bit of sun but it's not in direct light! i do water it when it gets droopy. (which seems like every 3 days or so). What can i do to get it to flower again. i just love the blooms.


Subject: RE: Angel Trumpet Tree...not floweirng
From: George Griffin
Zone: 5a
Date: 27-Mar-02 03:43 PM EST

If the plant you have is Datura ( Angels Trumpet ) it needs a lot of sun to produce flowers. This would likely be the problem unless you are feeding it a hight Nitrogen fertilizer. I hopw you are aways of the toxic qualities of the plant. I hope this helps.


Subject: RE: Angel Trumpet Tree...not floweirng
From: Ducky
Zone: 4a
Date: 27-Mar-02 09:58 PM EST

next week we are having a big sun room put on the south side of our house so the plant can be moved out there and hopefully it will flower with all the sun it will get.i have not done any fertilizing to it. no, i am not aware of the toxic qualities of this plant. please tell me more! i bought this down in Pensacola, FL and i don't want to lose it!


Subject: RE: Angel Trumpet Tree...not floweirng
From: George Griffin
Zone: 5a
Date: 28-Mar-02 06:39 AM EST

The following information may help verify that we are talking about Datura. If this is indeed what you have the caution is memtioned.

Jimson Weed (Angel Trumpet) Genus Datura

CAUTION: All parts of all Datura plants are poisonous and can be fatal if ingested.

Range

All four deserts of the American Southwest from Baja and Southern California, east to Texas and Mexico, and north through Arizona, New Mexico, Utah and Nevada.

Habitat

Desert sandy flats, arroyos and plains from sea level to an elevation up to 2,500 feet. Often seen along Southwestern roadsides.

Flowers

Large, white, trumpet-shaped flowers bloom March through November. Corollas are up to 6 inches long, have 5 teeth and are often tinged with purple or lavender around the margins. This foul-smelling flower opens after dusk and closes by mid-morning of the following day.

Description

This stout, branched, sprawling perennial has long, gray-green, ovate leaves up to 6 inches long, which are covered by tiny smooth hairs. It may grow up to 2 feet high.

Thorny, globose, walnut-sized fruit (1-1/2 inches in diameter) has many small, slender spines. The fruit hangs down in all species except Jimson Weed.

Datura is a member of the Potato (Solanaceae) Family, also called the Deadly Nightshade Family. There are several species of the Datura genus, including D. wrightii, commonly referred to as the Southwestern Thorn Apple. D. stramonium is usually called Jimson Weed; D. metaloides is colloquially named Sacred Datura; and D. inoxia is usually referred to as Toloache. The smaller annual, D. discolor, is often called Moon Flower. It grows only 18 inches high and has a purple throat not found in other species.


Subject: RE: Angel Trumpet Tree...not floweirng
From: Liz
Zone: 8b
Date: 28-Mar-02 11:42 AM EST

I think you have to decide which you have - datura or brugmansia. Datura is a short lived tender perennial - the blooms face upwards. Brugmansia is a long lived tender perennial with blooms that either hang down or nod. If it's any shade of blue or purple it's a datura. There are no blue Brugs. I have many brugs. They are voracious feeders in the growing season. If you keep your plant indoors year round you might consider moving it outside when the weather stays up over 45F. I think your problem would be lack of nutrition. 20-20-20-Miracle Grow works beautifully. You can also use 10-52-10 to get the blooms going - which is why you bought in the first place - right? Liz


Subject: RE: Angel Trumpet Tree...not floweirng
From: Ducky
Zone: 4a
Date: 28-Mar-02 08:52 PM EST

I will try Miracle Grow! also, my "tree" (it's huge) gets a peachy colored flower on it that is about 6-8 inches long. hangs down. at night it smells beautiful, like a Gardenia. I just love it. it scents up the whole room. I have seen this plant also have white flowers. so, what kind do i have then? a Datura or Brug?


Subject: RE: Angel Trumpet Tree...not floweirng
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Date: 28-Mar-02 11:10 PM EST

I'd say you have a brugmansia - lucky you. They come in all shades of white through cream, soft yellow to lemon yellow, pale pink through deep pink, apricot through a saturated orange. From what you describe I'd say (without seeing a picture) that you have Charles Grimaldi. It has a wonderful evening scent. The scent is different with many of the varieties. Some are scented like lemons. There are many named varieties. The Europeans have been furiously hybridizing this plant for the last 10 years and have come up with magical varieties. In Canada - nurseries are the worst places to find the collector brugs - you only see 3 - suaveolens white (the one marked white), Charles Grimaldi (the one marked yellow)and Frosty Pink ( the one marked pink). If you want to luck into the specialty brugs you have to hit the arboretum,garden club sales that should be coming up in the next while. There are at least 70 named varieties and they are being hybridized constantly.


Subject: RE: Angel Trumpet Tree...not floweirng
From: Ducky
Zone: 4b
Date: 29-Mar-02 04:59 PM EST

Yes, i now remember that when i got this plant it had a tag on it that said "Charles Grimaldi". so, do you know why it's not flowering? i have not picked up any Miracle Grow yet but i do plan to and i think if it likes alot of sun, when i get it moved to our sun room that is being built next week, it might do much better. thank you so much for the info! i love plants and i try to learn as much about what i have but sometimes i get plants from other people and they don't know what they are and i don't take the time to find out what they are either. i just love this one though!


Subject: RE: Angel Trumpet Tree...not floweirng
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Zone:
Date: 29-Mar-02 06:49 PM EST

Food - it's starving!


Subject: RE: Angel Trumpet Tree...not floweirng
From: Ducky
Zone: 4a
Date: 06-Apr-02 06:50 PM EST

I have started with the Miracle Grow. I sure hope this will help it flower. thanks for all your help!


Subject: RE: Angel Trumpet Tree...not floweirng
From: cindy
Zone: 3a
Date: 09-Apr-02 01:42 AM EST

brugmansias are EXTREMLY HEAVY FEEDERS - you must fetilize with full strength 20-20-20 two out of three waterings- and they need alot of water with good drainage-if the leaves are yellow or fall off your brug needs food and water a brugmansia that doesn't want to bloom is starving of nutrients-


Subject: RE: Angel Trumpet Tree...not floweirng
From: Ducky
Zone: 4
Date: 22-Apr-02 02:21 PM EST

Ok, I bought some "Jack's Classic" 20-20-20 all purpose plant food on Friday the 19th. I have watered my tree with it 3 times so far. the soil is moist right now and over the weekend, I was still finding yellow leaves or leaves that were on the floor. how long before the tree starts improving with it's new food?


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