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foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)


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From:Date:Zone:
Diane23-Jul-01 04:25 PM EST 5b   
Will Creed23-Jul-01 04:53 PM EST   
Janet23-Jul-01 09:23 PM EST 5   
gwen23-Jul-01 11:02 PM EST   
Debbie23-Jul-01 11:37 PM EST   
Diane24-Jul-01 09:00 AM EST   
JoanneS24-Jul-01 01:32 PM EST 3a   
Ed24-Jul-01 06:51 PM EST 5   
Debbie24-Jul-01 11:05 PM EST   
donna25-Jul-01 12:07 AM EST 3a   
25-Jul-01 02:45 AM EST   
25-Jul-01 12:05 PM EST   
Debbie26-Jul-01 02:11 AM EST   
Chris27-Jul-01 12:11 PM EST 5a   
Diane27-Jul-01 02:38 PM EST 5b   
DAVE27-Jul-01 05:58 PM EST   


Subject: foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)
From: Diane
Zone: 5b
Date: 23-Jul-01 04:25 PM EST

Well ... which is right; fo-li-age, foil-age or fo-lage? It's not the "to-may-to, to-mah-to" thing, these are different spellings for, presumably, the same item! Grrr


Subject: RE: foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)
From: Will Creed
Zone:
Date: 23-Jul-01 04:53 PM EST

There is only one correct spelling - foliage - and only one correct pronunciation: "foe lee ij," with the accent on the first syllable.


Subject: RE: foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)
From: Janet
Zone: 5
Date: 23-Jul-01 09:23 PM EST

Will is right. By the way, a few years back, I had found a web site that provided (via audio clip) pronunciations of plant names, but I lost it along the way. It was so helpful, making me realize I was pronouncing "cotoneaster" completely wrong! If anyone has the URL for such a site, please let me know!


Subject: RE: foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)
From: gwen
Zone:
Date: 23-Jul-01 11:02 PM EST

to Janet, the web site you want is gardening.com -they have a plant encyclopedia available and when you search for a plant and click on each finding, there will be an icon to click on for the pronounciation...I learned how to say 'asclepias'...it is a so-so site...this one is better I think. (so, what does url stand for, speaking of duh...) gwen in victoria


Subject: RE: foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)
From: Debbie
Zone:
Date: 23-Jul-01 11:37 PM EST

I'm wrong..will is right! It's just one of those words that as your typing it and you spell it..look at it..and you know it might be wrong..you just go with it anyway! One of the best sites I have found Janet is this one...

http://hg.women.com/homeandgarden/refer/resor/00plen11.htm

Unfortunatly foliage wasn't on there!


Subject: RE: foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)
From: Diane
Zone:
Date: 24-Jul-01 09:00 AM EST

to Debbie, there are many well-known garden folks who mispronounce foliage and I find it hard to believe that they're just lazy and go with whatever they typed! Am I lauding these persons more than I should? So many people gobble up every word they say/print as the gospel truth. by the way, what's the diff between foliage and leaves?


Subject: RE: foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)
From: JoanneS
Zone: 3a
Date: 24-Jul-01 01:32 PM EST

I too mispronounced cotoneaster for years, saying cotton easter instead. Glad I'm not the only one.


Subject: RE: foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)
From: Ed
Zone: 5
Date: 24-Jul-01 06:51 PM EST

Dianne, and I hope Debbie agrees, leaves are foliage; needles on evergreens are foliage,as are green tops of iris and yucca, etc. Most plants have foliage, including many that never have leaves.


Subject: RE: foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)
From: Debbie
Zone:
Date: 24-Jul-01 11:05 PM EST

Well after a very LAZY full day at the nursery of moving stock because the new subdivision next door has screwed up our water table and we are being flooded, I came home and worked on my personal gardens for awhile. Then had to go back to the nursery and set up for the potting my father inlaw will do in the wee hours of the day. Then I made supper, cleaned up and did what other homemaker duties needed attending to before being able to settle down and enjoy an evening at my computer..alot of the times work related. I open up forums in ICG and to my surprise I and alot of my colleagues have been called lazy liars who don't seem the understand the english language. Do I get mad...could have. Do I laugh..should have. Do I respond by lashing out...I could but I think I will explain to Diane in the only terms she understands. Di·an·e [d ánn ] noun , You (stressed) yoo , pron say[say ] verb ( OH TELL YA WHAT...go to http://dictionary.msn.com/....there you can find all the proper grammer etc OK!!!) that you are lauding these people more then you should. The next time you walk through a park or a golf course or just main street of your home, maybe you should STOP and smell the rose's. These rose's, petunia's, flowers of every color imaginable, shrubs of many shapes and varieties, trees or your boring little spider plant sitting in to small of pot on your window sill that is begging for just a drop of nutrient were are at one time or other propagated by some pretty knowlegable people who out of love for their ART...yes ART grace All your senses with beauty. Do you realize that it took 15 years for the plain old shasta daisy to get from the road side wild daisy to what you see now. We propagate rhodo cuttings for a grower who hasn't even named some of his new variety's, but the look on his face when they are ready for potting is worth it and just being part of it is exciting. The hours spent diagnosing a pest problem or nutrient problem or helping a customer pick out just the right plant combo for her front bed and have her come back the following spring with nothing but appreciation. We DON'T need YOUR damn lauding thankyou. We get enough just by stopping to smell that rose. As far people gobbling up every word they say/print as the gospel truth. If you add up all the years behind all the people who give this TRUTH out there...thats a hell of alot of years and yes..I look, listen and put in my 2 cents worth when needed and I am damn grateful for these people because I learn something out there or IN HERE everyday and by the way thoses rose's are not only my passion but they are also my bread and butter. As far as your question about what's the diff between foliage and leaves? I think Ed answered it perfectly fine...you did understand it I hope and I do hope you trusted what he typed since my belief is that it is TRUTH! OOOPS...did I lash out..sorry..to err is human.


Subject: RE: foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)
From: donna
Zone: 3a
Date: 25-Jul-01 12:07 AM EST

I am just about ready to leave for a week of rest..I need it for it has been an extremely busy 6 weeks...am I going to be able to get away and know that the forum is not going to erupt on me? :)


Subject: RE: foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)
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Zone:
Date: 25-Jul-01 02:45 AM EST

Donna

Better leave the sprinkler running and cool these cats off. :)


Subject: RE: foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)
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Zone:
Date: 25-Jul-01 12:05 PM EST

Debbie, I was just responding to your response (see below full context)"...and you know it might be wrong..you just go with it anyway!..." I presumed that "you just go with it anyway!" meant that you didn't care if it was wrong. Sorry if my remarks were hurtful to you. Thanks for the foliage/leaves clarification Ed. Donna, please don't worry about the forum, have a nice vacation.

"foliage, foilage, folage (duh?) From: Debbie (jaronusery@home.com) Zone: Date: 23-Jul-01 11:37 PM EST I'm wrong..will is right! It's just one of those words that as your typing it and you spell it..look at it..and you know it might be wrong..you just go with it anyway! "


Subject: RE: foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)
From: Debbie
Zone:
Date: 26-Jul-01 02:11 AM EST

Diane..your right,,I didn't care if it was wrong because it is just one of those words that really don't matter..people just know what you mean..it's alot like cotton easter or cotoneaster..we know and no one really cares! I am sorry I reacted but it just seemed so petty and the more I typed I guess the more I thought and that always gets me in trouble *LOL* anyway..lets just not worry about it and continue to enjoy this great forum.


Subject: RE: foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)
From: Chris
Zone: 5a
Date: 27-Jul-01 12:11 PM EST

I think it is worth the effort to spell it right and say it right. Communication is difficult enough as it is....


Subject: RE: foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)
From: Diane
Zone: 5b
Date: 27-Jul-01 02:38 PM EST

Chris, I appreciate your comment! I also appreciate the effort you took to read through this thread.


Subject: RE: foliage, foilage, folage (duh?)
From: DAVE
Zone:
Date: 27-Jul-01 05:58 PM EST

I was hoping this thread would finally die but it seems to keep on coming back.(And yes I'm now part of it!) I couldn't agree more with Debbie. We are trying to communicate and since this website does not have spell check and people who ask questions prefer immediate answers, the content/information is more important than a few misspelled words. Sometimes mispelt words can change the meaning but I don't think anyone misunderstood 'foliage' in any of it's spellings. Let's cut a little slack with our experts. I hope no one is afraid to answer a garden question now because the spell check 'Nazis' will be watching. P.S. I didn't really know what foliage was until Ed explained, so there was a benefit to this after all. Let's all kiss and make up so that we can get back to the real reason we are here-gardening.


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