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Overwhelmed by garden project

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Debbie Powers11-May-01 10:51 AM EST 7   
Susan11-May-01 12:39 PM EST   
Debbie12-May-01 09:06 AM EST   
Ed12-May-01 01:42 PM EST 5a   
Debbie12-May-01 09:05 PM EST 7   
Ed12-May-01 10:23 PM EST 5a   

Subject: Overwhelmed by garden project
From: Debbie Powers
Zone: 7
Date: 11-May-01 10:51 AM EST

I have zillions of calla lilies, daffodils, and irises which need to be transplanted this month. (I won't even "go there" concerning the garden project that necessitates this undertaking!) The daffodils have bloomed; the iris are in full bloom as we speak; and the lilies will have their turn soon. Is there any hope of this being a successful undertaking? Even though I've had these plants for years, I can't remember what happens to the iris and lily foliage after bloom. Does it die back right away or stay green all summer. Thanks so much

Subject: RE: Overwhelmed by garden project
From: Susan
Date: 11-May-01 12:39 PM EST

Iris and lily foliage stay green all summer but both of then can survive a move at the 'wrong' time of year, although they may not look so good for this year. For the lilies, dig deep and wide to try and disturb the bulb and roots as little as possible. For iris, I dig out the clump and seperate the rhizomes and replant (being careful not to bury the rhizome, only the roots...) They will be unhappy this year but should do OK if they get the proper mosture and will be fine and blossom again next year. Both irises and lilies seem to be able to take a fair bit of abuse and survive!

Subject: RE: Overwhelmed by garden project
From: Debbie
Date: 12-May-01 09:06 AM EST

Susan, you made my day! All the gardening books I have (a sorry few), and the entire collection at our little library, avoid, like the plague, the subject of "wrong time moves."

Subject: RE: Overwhelmed by garden project
From: Ed
Zone: 5a
Date: 12-May-01 01:42 PM EST

Since the need to be moved this month, you really have no choice, so onward gardening sodier, and the sooner, the better. The plants won't apprecfiate the timing, some will fret for a year, some a bit longer, but out of the zillion, at least a xillion will get over it eventually. But what a glorious opportunity to completely redesign your entire layout! You won't believe this, but the day will come when you will be glad this happened!

Subject: RE: Overwhelmed by garden project
From: Debbie
Zone: 7
Date: 12-May-01 09:05 PM EST

Thanks so much for your "onward gardening soldier" encouragement regarding transplanting zillions of bulbs out of season. We need it! And the lilies and the daisies and the iris will survive, I'm sure of it.

Our next challenge is the pergola--what mixture of plants and vines to introduce to it. Climbing enonymous is a winner is our Zone 7 territory, so we are considering putting it on the far side, which, with its evergreen growth, would swallow up, in no time flat, our view of the neighbor's "extra" car which sits disconsolate in their driveway. But on the near side, which we will be looking at everyday, we're still a little bit in limbo. Roses (but they aren't evergreen), honeysuckle (which smells so divine, but isn't evergreen either). Dear me, dear me, what to do. Have you any suggestions? Are there evergreen vines that would work nicely with roses and/or clematis?

Our former wildflower garden (a 40' circle) is being transformed into a divided wheel look. The hubcap is a center circle open space, the tire divided into 6 arced planters, along with 6 arced walkways leading into the center circle. The planters are 16' around the edge, 8' around the inner circle, with 8' wedges making up their sides. (If rectangles, they would have been 8'X16' in size. Overwhelming!) And us not gardeners at all, if you want to know the truth. The lilies and the irises and the daisies and the black-eyed susans, and the monarda and the butterfly bush, etc., etc., survived on TOTAL benign neglect in terrible soil over a ten year period. Everything, but everything, else died with aplomb. Yet, the rhodos and the mountain laurel and the azaleas and the wild dogwoods make the north side of our house, which also gets some Southern sun in the garden, look glorious in spring. We just want it to look as well every late August when our extended family comes for a week. At the present time, they arrive to a sea of weeds in the circle. Green weeds, but still weeds!

The lakeside (facing South, SE) makes my heart jump at this time of year. I somehow managed to make clematis grow. Huge white blossoms adorn some of the bushes. They run up the deck underpinnings; purple mid-sized blooms adorn others. Tiny white blossoms will give us joy in September on a busy climber that reaches up to my office window.

Don't tell me at age 70, come November, I actually am going to become a gardener!!! I'm not sure I'm ready. And--My kids (mere tots of 39+) will be astonished.

Thanks for your encouraging note, and any/all further suggestions you may have regarding my pergola.

Debbie Powers

Subject: RE: Overwhelmed by garden project
From: Ed
Zone: 5a
Date: 12-May-01 10:23 PM EST

The nearest to an evergreen climber that I have encountered is Euonymuus fortunei " coloratus ". Mine grows vertically against the house up to the eave trough.Once established, its annual growth is 12-18"

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