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Will rosebush ever bloom?


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Gerlinde Paterson07-Aug-00 04:59 PM EST   
Doug10-Aug-00 12:13 AM EST   
glen10-Aug-00 04:46 PM EST   
Janet13-Aug-00 08:00 AM EST   
glen16-Aug-00 01:14 PM EST   
Janet16-Aug-00 07:35 PM EST   
glen18-Aug-00 11:19 AM EST   
Janet18-Aug-00 06:59 PM EST   
Ann18-Aug-00 07:37 PM EST   
chris18-Aug-00 07:54 PM EST   
Claire- Ontario21-Aug-00 10:43 PM EST   


Subject: Will rosebush ever bloom?
From: Gerlinde Paterson
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Date: 07-Aug-00 04:59 PM EST

Planted two rose bushes in May, one "Louise Odier" which is doing fine and one "Frontenac" which puzzles me.At first it sprouted lots of branches which lay very close to the ground. Then one day there grew a second set of branches right from the middle of the bush, this time the branches grew upright. And as opposed to the first set these last ones were pinkish (first branches were green). I did not know what to do and then someone suggested to cut the green, laying down branches off and leave the pink upright ones standing. I did that, but in all thos weeks since not a sign of a bud anywhere. Did I do something wrong? The Rose was a gift from my friend in Germany, who went to a lot of trouble ordering it in Toronto at Cruickshank's for me. The flower bush means a lot to me. Can anyone help? Thank you in advance.


Subject: RE: Will rosebush ever bloom?
From: Doug
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Date: 10-Aug-00 12:13 AM EST

What may have happened with cutting all the bottom branches is that you might have severely shocked the plant. Seeing as it was drawing on these branches for its main support(first produced-first photosynthesizing-main energy makers). And if you cut them all at once, you could have greatly reduced the plant's energy-producing capacity. If the other upright branches have kept their leaves, it should recover but may take some time.


Subject: RE: Will rosebush ever bloom?
From: glen
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Date: 10-Aug-00 04:46 PM EST

I bought what I thought was a continually blooming climber, William Baffin. It was labeled as such. When I planted it the rose has only bloomed once, with only one bloom. The color was single petals and white. This is definitely not william baffin. Not only that, it may be a rose which only blooms in spring, or, one which only blooms on old wood. Unfortunately in our climate most of the canes die back almost to the ground, so there is not really any old wood to produce blooms. Major disappointment when I think of the william baffin I could have had.


Subject: RE: Will rosebush ever bloom?
From: Janet
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Date: 13-Aug-00 08:00 AM EST

Glen, try another William Baffin... I have one, and it is definitely worth it! I believe that William Baffin is not grafted, so yours must have been mislabeled, as opposed to growing from below the graft (as may have happened with Gerlinde's rose). My WB rose leafed out all seven feet in the spring (unlike many other hardy [including Explorer] roses, which all have some dieback), and is stunning in bloom. Well worth growing!


Subject: RE: Will rosebush ever bloom?
From: glen
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Date: 16-Aug-00 01:14 PM EST

Thanks for the advice Janet. Do you know if it's okay just to dig the one I don't want out and replace it with a new one? There is some rose books which say if you plant a new rose in the same spot an old one grew the new one won't grow very well. I was wondering if anyone had experience with this theory.


Subject: RE: Will rosebush ever bloom?
From: Janet
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Date: 16-Aug-00 07:35 PM EST

I would think it would be fine to do that unless there was some existing problem with the location (e.g. bugs). Of course, it wouldn't hurt to dig in some good soil or compost first. The difficulty I have with my shrub rosebushes (hybrid teas & David Austin roses) is that they never get as big as they do further south, and they get lost in my perennial beds. I'm thinking I might make a special rose bed for them...


Subject: RE: Will rosebush ever bloom?
From: glen
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Date: 18-Aug-00 11:19 AM EST

The location seems fine, gets lots of snowcover from the deck in winter so perhaps I will get the William Baffin I always wanted. By the way, how do the David Austins do? I always wanted to try them, do they need winter protection and are they suceptable to blackspot/mildew? How much fuss are they, I think they are hardier than the hybrid teas, right?


Subject: RE: Will rosebush ever bloom?
From: Janet
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Date: 18-Aug-00 06:59 PM EST

The ones that made it past the first year do fine! (I bought about a dozen 8 or 9 years ago) I'm a lazy gardener, and have only one tender rose that I love so much I bury it in the fall (I'm pretty sure it's "Little Devil" with practically neon orange/red blooms! but I digress...) The David Austins die back, but do come back & bloom nicely (I'm in zone 5, Ottawa Valley). I don't get around to winter protection - maybe I should. I haven't had a problem with blackspot or mildew. Another rose that's great (dusty purple blooms, quite scented), but with only one spectacular bloomtime, is my Tuscany rose. It is very hardy and doesn't die back too much, and the fact that it has been around since 1596 (1596!!) gives it a real sense of history. Glen, maybe you should get some more roses!


Subject: RE: Will rosebush ever bloom?
From: Ann
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Date: 18-Aug-00 07:37 PM EST

Here in 4b my WB is just putting on another show of bloom it was spectacular the first time and looks as if it will be just as good the second. Get another one Glen!


Subject: RE: Will rosebush ever bloom?
From: chris
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Date: 18-Aug-00 07:54 PM EST

I planted a Therese Bugnet last year and it bloomed wonderfully and got lots of new growth. Now this year the blooms are not maturing and falling off before they open. There is still some new growth on the bush and it looks quite healthy. What am I doing wrong? (we have had a lot of rain, if that might be the problem)


Subject: RE: Will rosebush ever bloom?
From: Claire- Ontario
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Date: 21-Aug-00 10:43 PM EST

About David Austin roses....I agree that they seem to be quite hardy and not easily susceptible to black spot or other diseases. The worst I can say about mine is the aphids like it.

My David Austin gets quite a bit of shade and does stand alone....other roses in my garden have had garlic chives planted near them and that eliminates the aphids on them so am pretty sure it would do the same for any rose.

I have to say also, that I put a minimum of protection around it over the winter - usually just some leaf cover and its survived for over 5 years now.


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